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    I still don't get how this entire time we thought it was 2 mill. Makes zero sense.

    Our hopes were so up and then bam... we hit earth.
    We can't assume that Spurs management knew about this or not. We CAN assume that WE thought it was 2M.

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    So the Spurs get an Argentine frontcourt player this summer, one for whom they did not have draft rights and they keep the rights to another.

    Not bad, especially if Oberto is just as good, if not better, than Scola.

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    FYI: Oberto's contract will start at $2.265 mil. So the Spurs should have about $2.735 mil of the MLE left to offer someone else a deal.
    Probably Horry is going to get that Money

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    Probably Horry is going to get that Money

    Horry will be signed using his Early Bird rights. The Spurs do not have to use the MLE to re-sign him.

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    I think he'd have a great shot in arbitration.

    If a first round contract buyout is only worth 2.2 million, how can Tau rationalize asking 14 million for the last pick in the second round (an objectively "worse round" to get drafted)?
    Let me guess ...

    The original amount was euros 1.450.000, but the assistant who typed the contract added a zero (An unknown Word's bug) ... so it was signed with 14.500.000


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    Some of you are way off base here. Yes, the buyout sucks for the Spurs and Scola because as that figure stands it makes his rights useless. But to compare it to Slavery? Give me a break. Tau is in the business of making money just like any other sports franchise and they need to remain competetive to do so. If they just let Scola walk away they lose him and gain nothing even though they put a lot of work into making him what he is today.

    Buyouts are fair, even at that amount. They are put in place to protect an investment. Thats what you have agents for. It's a damn shame Scola's team is playing hardball but it is what it is.

    Scola sitting out is a viable option. He's trying to renegotiate a bad contract that is obviously stacked against him. But it is a double edged sword, and it could hurt him more than it would help him. Tau's management seems to have balls of steel, I wouldn't want to with them. At this point, Scola needs to pray arbitration works in his favor.

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    Assuming that 14.5 million wasn't a typo Scola is obviously stuck over there...but guys...it's definitely not the end of the world. Scola is still young and improving. Big men don't typically reach their peak skill wise till they are 27-28 and that is the age that he will be available. I would say that Tim Duncan was an exception to this age peak thing but we actually still don't know...TD with a summers rest and two good ankles could continue to improve...a very scary scenario for the rest of the league...

    Scola will be the "go to" guy on his team next year which is a top team in Europe and he will get lots of minutes...He still has a lot of upside and barring injury I expect his numbers to improve dramatically this year...Even if he can't get out of his contract he should continue to improve and will join the Spurs as he is entering his peak and as Tim starts to slowly decline. Still not a bad scenario.

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    Yeah, Spurs get an Argentine big now and they still have Scola's rights. Not too bad, in my opinion.

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    and 3 years at 2.5 million per for a potential rotation big that can give you post scoring and agressive energy rebounding is friggen dirt cheap. Thats less than half what Jerome friggen James got per year over a shorter time period.

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    and 3 years at 2.5 million per for a potential rotation big that can give you post scoring and agressive energy rebounding is friggen dirt cheap. Thats less than half what Jerome friggen James got per year over a shorter time period.

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    Go to arbitration and asked for the buyout to be much less than 2mm. That way Tau has too much at risk and will settle for 2-4mm.

    Arbitration baby! However, Tau might have the arbitrator in their back pocket. WHo knows, but just an example of how much better the US system of business is far better than europes.

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    Let me get this straight.

    The Spurs get an Argentine big man, who is a solid 6'10 and is in the prime of his career without losing the rights to there 25 year old Argentine big man.

    In 2 years when Tony is going to be just entering his prime, Manu will be bang smack in the middle of his prime, Tim will still only be 31, Nazr will still be a good age and Bowen and Horry will be either gone or with much reduced roles, the Spurs will be able to bring over the "Best Bigman in Europe" who will just happen to be in his prime, to just add to what will be a very seasoned and effective lineup.

    Some people are complaining about that?

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    The Spurs do have to give up on Scola for the interim, so they've lost something. But they've gained the rights to another big as a result.

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    I could care less, there is no "need" for Scola right now. This just means the Spurs will be adding a better Luis Scola in 2 years than they would be this year, not to mention that he will be added to a team who's backcourt will be in its prime and who's frontcourt could potentially need a bit of a lift as they get older.

    I'm in' rapt about this one.

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    Make no mistake, I'm quite pleased with this outcome.

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    What the ....Tau Ceramica is a ing piece of ing ass ing .

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    how do you figure?



    i have not read one legitmate hardcore reason why this guy shoulda been signed other than he's a backup center
    then again i guess its hard for me to scrutinize a foreign player properly
    One legitimate reason is that they can trade Rasho or Nasr, whichever is less needed, for someone that fills a need while getting rid of his higher salary. It's probably a statement that one or the other is gone.

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    About buyouts

    Last year Chapu Nocioni left TAU to play with Chicago Bulls, and the TAU's President told to everyone that Chapu had to pay every f...g euro of his buyout; in his speach he said that TAU invested a lot of money recruiting and training young players, he added that under no circunstances TAU will give up their stars without receiving money.

    Besides that, u$s 14.5 M??? Jesus ... I'd like kill his agent, how in the world you could allow that?? amazing.
    If you were an agent, wouldn't you like to tie up a client's contract for ten years so you'll have a nice annuity? You keep your piece of him, even when he gets a raise. Too bad the kid didn't have better representation.

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    Everyone I talk to in the Argentine media (even those in contact with Scola and/or his agent) say that the buyout is $3.2M.

    That's a huge difference to what is reported here.

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    Look Kori,

    Be careful with information around here. Always was reported that the buyout would be around 2M, so It could be true or not. Besides Argentine media said in the past that the contract was thru 2006 not 3 years more. I do not know.

    Gus

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    Gus, it was always reported here (and in Argentina) that the buyout was around $2M up until yesterday. I'm just wondering why the Express-News thinks its $14.5M and the Argentina media thinks it's $3.2M now. Those numbers are pretty specific. I find it very interesting. Maybe it's in between Who knows?

    I wish Scola the best and hopefully he has another great season in Europe.

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    Well, Ludden got pwn3d on the EB rights for Horry, so who knows....?

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    Perhaps it started at $14.5 mil and has declined incrementally over the course of the contract?

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    :p :p

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    Perhaps it started at $14.5 mil and has declined incrementally over the course of the contract?
    Oh, I think it was supposed to do that. But then Ludden states that Tau went back to the original buyout amount.

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