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    Well, Nono if the Spurs stay over the cap, then they can re-sign Neal without much worry. I honestly think the bigger barrier to bringing Gary back will be playing time. The guard rotation is way too full right now to re-sign Neal to a big deal. They at least have to get rid of Mills first.

    Remember, though. Neal's cap hold is almost nothing (between $300k and $600k when factoring in the roster charge). If they plan to use cap space AND re-sign Neal. It shouldn't be any more difficult than it will be already with Splitter.

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    What you guys need is for CP3 to come over next year. lol

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    What you guys need is for CP3 to come over next year. lol
    Last thing we need is a PG right now, try a SG! CP3 is not that much better than Tony if at all! What the do we need another PG FOR? We need a star SG to come over or a Center, thank you.

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    Well, Nono if the Spurs stay over the cap, then they can re-sign Neal without much worry. I honestly think the bigger barrier to bringing Gary back will be playing time. The guard rotation is way too full right now to re-sign Neal to a big deal. They at least have to get rid of Mills first.

    Remember, though. Neal's cap hold is almost nothing (between $300k and $600k when factoring in the roster charge). If they plan to use cap space AND re-sign Neal. It shouldn't be any more difficult than it will be already with Splitter.
    If the Isiah Thomas of the league extends a $40million/4 year offer sheet to Neal and he signs it, doesn't the Spurs have to match that or let him walk? Not saying it's going to happen, but it's not like we don't see teams throwing stupid money at marginal talent all the time. Or that's not a realistic scenario because there's not many teams with cap space?

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    Last thing we need is a PG right now, try a SG! CP3 is not that much better than Tony if at all! What the do we need another PG FOR? We need a star SG to come over or a Center, thank you.
    Actually, too late now, but this team is sorely lacking a solid, natural backup PG. Manu is filling in the position as best he can because we have nobody else, but he's a SG.

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    Actually, too late now, but this team is sorely lacking a solid, natural backup PG. Manu is filling in the position as best he can because we have nobody else, but he's a SG.
    CP3 will not be a backup anywhere NONO! We need Jarrett Jack for that! DAMNIT!

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    Anyone who thinks Manu retiring would be good news for the Spurs is delusional, tbh.
    They hate Manu so much. They already forgot how he is still valuable to our team.

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    If the Isiah Thomas of the league extends a $40million/4 year offer sheet to Neal and he signs it, doesn't the Spurs have to match that or let him walk? Not saying it's going to happen, but it's not like we don't see teams throwing stupid money at marginal talent all the time. Or that's not a realistic scenario because there's not many teams with cap space?
    -Neal doesn't have to sign any offer sheet. He can bring it to the Spurs and try to work out a better deal (like a $45M/5 under you scenario). Obviously, since that's too much for the Spurs to even pretend to want to match, Neal would (and should) sign the offer sheet and go to his new team.

    -I don't think that it's realistic to expect THAT much given Neal's age, but he could get a deal like Crawford ($21.5M/4) around the MLE. Maybe he gets up to six million a year. Either way, that may be more than the Spurs want to pay. So functionally, your fears are well-founded. Teams need some type of scoring punch, and a few like Memphis should make compe ive offers.

    -If a team offers are more-realistic contract (like $13M/3 or $18M/4) and they fear the Spurs may match it, they can try to work out a sign-and-trade, which may net the Spurs a small asset like a draft pick. These types of S&Ts are not unheard of.

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    CP3 will not be a backup anywhere NONO! We need Jarrett Jack for that! DAMNIT!
    Oh I agree with that, just saying a solid backup PG that can initiate the offense would've been nice to have right about now.

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    Oh I agree with that, just saying a solid backup PG that can initiate the offense would've been nice to have right about now.
    I miss Brent Barry on our le teams speaking of this, that or Claxton in 03. We don't have that luxury this year.

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    -Neal doesn't have to sign any offer sheet. He can bring it to the Spurs and try to work out a better deal (like a $45M/5 under you scenario). Obviously, since that's too much for the Spurs to even pretend to want to match, Neal would (and should) sign the offer sheet and go to his new team.

    -I don't think that it's realistic to expect THAT much given Neal's age, but he could get a deal like Crawford ($21.5M/4) around the MLE. Maybe he gets up to six million a year. Either way, that may be more than the Spurs want to pay. So functionally, your fears are well-founded. Teams need some type of scoring punch, and a few like Memphis should make compe ive offers.

    -If a team offers are more-realistic contract (like $13M/3 or $18M/4) and they fear the Spurs may match it, they can try to work out a sign-and-trade, which may net the Spurs a small asset like a draft pick. These types of S&Ts are not unheard of.
    He's 28, and seeing he's a good spot up shooter, I can easily see him having at least another 5/6 years in the league. I don't know what the cap situation is for Golden State (and I'm sure RJ opting in on the $10m of his last year doesn't help), but I always thought he would be a great fit there (no defense, chucking). On that note, there's plenty of teams that really don't demand a whole lot from the defensive end, so I can see him being sought after. The question really is what other teams think is his true value.

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    I miss Brent Barry on our le teams speaking of this, that or Claxton in 03. We don't have that luxury this year.
    Somebody brought up TJ Ford... he would've been nice to have.

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    He's 28, and seeing he's a good spot up shooter, I can easily see him having at least another 5/6 years in the league. I don't know what the cap situation is for Golden State (and I'm sure RJ opting in on the $10m of his last year doesn't help), but I always thought he would be a great fit there (no defense, chucking). On that note, there's plenty of teams that really don't demand a whole lot from the defensive end, so I can see him being sought after. The question really is what other teams think is his true value.
    Players of his ilk (no-defense sixth-man scorers) usually go for about the MLE. Jarrod Jack, Lou Williams and Jamal Crawford are the primary examples of that. If you can do more like JR Smith, then you get more.

    Golden State's in cap right now, as they have RJ and Biedrins making $20 Million next season in addition to having to actually pay Curry. They won't be able to re-sign both Jack and Landry without going into the tax, let alone adding Neal. I agree he'll be valuable to any team that has a bad bench and wants to fix it with their MLE. Indiana is another team that could sorely use him right now.

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    Somebody brought up TJ Ford... he would've been nice to have.
    He never could stay healthy though! But yes if he was he could have helped out alot, a true PG!

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    CP3 will not be a backup anywhere NONO! We need Jarrett Jack for that! DAMNIT!
    Last edited by TheGreatYacht; 06-16-2013 at 02:07 AM.

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    LOL! That dude can flat out score though! I will take him on my side anyday! He is clutch too.

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    LOL! That dude can flat out score though! I will take him on my side anyday! He is clutch too.
    Me too.


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    I dnt want manu to go.he can still play for another year or two just for a lot less then he made this season.he can still b effective in spurts just need more help around him
    He needs more help around him ? We're in the NBA finals, junior. I'd say he has a pretty good team 'around him'.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if they re-sign him with a more significant amount than what most people suggests here, just because he can fills the seats in ATT center.

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    I'm a little pissed at Ginobili. He's close to ruining Duncan's last chance at getting a le. He is hurting the team, and his minutes would be better filled by another player. It seems like he's already checked out.

    I hope he proves me wrong in game 5.

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    I wont say, that I'm happy if he retires, but if we win #5 it may be the perfect time to do so.

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    A lot of of the numbskulls in this thread need to do shots of bleach with a draino chaser

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    Agree. They should have gotten rid of him after 2007. His value was high and they could have gotten some value back that could have helped them in the following years, instead Manu was always injured during the playoffs.
    If Manu leaves the Spurs after '07 chances are that the Spurs blow the team up after a couple of mediocre seasons (maybe not even making the playoffs) and they wouldn't be where they are now.

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    I miss Brent Barry on our le teams speaking of this, that or Claxton in 03. We don't have that luxury this year.
    The closest we have is TMac. I think Pop will have to use that card if we're struggling to get ball movement.

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    If Manu leaves the Spurs after '07 chances are that the Spurs blow the team up after a couple of mediocre seasons (maybe not even making the playoffs) and they wouldn't be where they are now.
    You have rascal confused for someone who wants the Spurs to win a fifth championship.

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