Official Thread for head coaches you would prefer to have right now over Pop

[ElNono]

I don't think we've given enough credit to Spoelstra for outcoaching Pop. The Miller adjustment was the kind of stuff that wins playoff series. It forced Pop to abandon his defense. It was that defense that even had the Spurs in that position. Spoelstra gets his guys to foul Leonard at the end of game 6 which is who you would want to foul in that situation. Then he uses a lineup that forced Pop to pull his best rebounder. I don't know how Pop expected to get that rebound when their 3pt lineup has better rebounders than our switching lineup. I think even if Pop didn't to use TD because he was too slow he could have gone with Tiago who's fast enough to switch and still bother the shot.

We were one missed shot/rebound away from " philli , beat by the underdog"... obviously, everything is second-guessed now. To me, getting outcoached is when you lose with the better talent. I don't think the Spurs were in that position when walking into that series.

[Spurs 4 The Win]

The en lement of most Spurs fans is unreal. Be happy with what we have. We are a small market thriving in a star based league that loves big markets.

[purist]

if you look at OP i was being sarcastic, and this is meant to call out the one's calling for Pop's head, most of whom can't come up with any good alternatives.

I get that but all it does is fuel the same old stupid posts from dumbasses. I'm pissed because just when the rest of the world opened their eyes to what truly special a cir stance we have here in sa, the same old haters gotta as usual

[spurraider21]

I get that but all it does is fuel the same old stupid posts from dumbasses. I'm pissed because just when the rest of the world opened their eyes to what truly special a cir stance we have here in sa, the same old haters gotta as usual

i know. instead of the same old "fire pop" stuff i kept hearing that was pissing me off i opened this thread to hear alternatives, instead of just tireless pop- ing

[And1Mak]

Fabreezy. Sloan. Shaw. Plenty more, i would need to interview them to see which would be the best fit.A
common theme is all these guys would be more hungry. pop aint hungry. he's fat and stuffed and just watching that 401k grow and enjoying his free hotel continental breakfasts and whatnot. his legacy is cemented. he's not gonna catch up to phil jackson, aurbach, etc. he's got nothin to fight for. fabreezy's hunger is an abyss.

[Clipper Nation]

"at least he wouldn't bench his stars late in games"

Instead, he'd keep Duncan in the game playing heavy minutes, but he would get no touches in the 4th while Parker and Manu take turns iso-ing and bricking on every possession.....

[Kidd K]

Doc Rivers is an overrated coach. The guy never posted a season with a win% higher than .549 until Boston brought their big 3 together by breaking the bank for them to artificially create a winnable situation. He was already in Boston for 3 years and the team got worse EVERY YEAR until they got KG. . .then suddenly they win the le immediately.

Following true to his trend, the Celtics again got worse every single season (except one, 2010-2011). Now he's leaving to Clippers.

It ain't like this dude has had a lack of talent either. He had T-Mac in Orlando and could barely crack .500. Had a super team in Boston and only won one le despite being in crappy conference and defaulting into the Finals for 3 straight years. Fails to get back to Finals as soon as teams in east get any good (Heat with LBJ, Bulls with super Rose)

Doc's lifetime win%: .554%

Pop's lifetime Win%: .681% (.703 if you exclude the tank year)

Doc's number of wins above .500: +57 (1,060 games coached)

Pop's number of wins above .500: +241 (1,328 games coached. +271 if you exclude the tank year)


There's no way I would take him over Popovich. In fact, I usually cringe when I hear this guy's name mentioned next to Pop's and Riley's and Phil Jackson's. He's not in their league AT ALL.

[T Park]

SA210 has yet to answer the question, but goes for the lowest common denominator.

Typical troglodyte dumb thinking.

[And1Mak]

Doc Rivers is an overrated coach. The guy never posted a season with a win% higher than .549 until Boston brought their big 3 together by breaking the bank for them to artificially create a winnable situation. He was already in Boston for 3 years and the team got worse EVERY YEAR until they got KG. . .then suddenly they win the le immediately.

Following true to his trend, the Celtics again got worse every single season (except one, 2010-2011). Now he's leaving to Clippers.

It ain't like this dude has had a lack of talent either. He had T-Mac in Orlando and could barely crack .500. Had a super team in Boston and only won one le despite being in crappy conference and defaulting into the Finals for 3 straight years. Fails to get back to Finals as soon as teams in east get any good (Heat with LBJ, Bulls with super Rose)

Doc's lifetime win%: .554%

Pop's lifetime Win%: .681% (.703 if you exclude the tank year)

Doc's number of wins above .500: +57 (1,060 games coached)

Pop's number of wins above .500: +241 (1,328 games coached. +271 if you exclude the tank year)


There's no way I would take him over Popovich. In fact, I usually cringe when I hear this guy's name mentioned next to Pop's and Riley's and Phil Jackson's. He's not in their league AT ALL.

what's pop soda's % without a HOF on the roster tbh

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Thibs is good. Better than Pop? No. But right now he is a better motivator IMO. I'm not saying pop isn't a good motivator, look where he got us. But Thibs is getting a lot out of even less. I have always said Pop gets more out of less than any coach in the NBA, and he does. He has had some garbage on the team. Now look at Thibs this past year. Exactly. No Rose, not many games from Deng, and a few other guys missing. Still won the 1st RD? And still gave the Heat trouble. 5 games, but not an easy 5 game series. I would say Thibs got even more out of less than Pop. But I would still take Pop. But if Pop retired, and Thibs was there, that would be my guy.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Doc Rivers is an overrated coach. The guy never posted a season with a win% higher than .549 until Boston brought their big 3 together by breaking the bank for them to artificially create a winnable situation. He was already in Boston for 3 years and the team got worse EVERY YEAR until they got KG. . .then suddenly they win the le immediately.

Following true to his trend, the Celtics again got worse every single season (except one, 2010-2011). Now he's leaving to Clippers.

It ain't like this dude has had a lack of talent either. He had T-Mac in Orlando and could barely crack .500. Had a super team in Boston and only won one le despite being in crappy conference and defaulting into the Finals for 3 straight years. Fails to get back to Finals as soon as teams in east get any good (Heat with LBJ, Bulls with super Rose)

Doc's lifetime win%: .554%

Pop's lifetime Win%: .681% (.703 if you exclude the tank year)

Doc's number of wins above .500: +57 (1,060 games coached)

Pop's number of wins above .500: +241 (1,328 games coached. +271 if you exclude the tank year)


There's no way I would take him over Popovich. In fact, I usually cringe when I hear this guy's name mentioned next to Pop's and Riley's and Phil Jackson's. He's not in their league AT ALL.

Honestly I kinda agree. Your post cemented that lol. I sometimes think Rivers is a good coach, then in the back of my mind I think, wasn't he in Orlando when they started the season like 1-100 and got fired? Lol.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Instead, he'd keep Duncan in the game playing heavy minutes, but he would get no touches in the 4th while Parker and Manu take turns iso-ing and bricking on every possession.....

I never understood how Timmy could get 25 in the first half, then all of a sudden not get the ball anymore. Instead Tony Parker and Manu keep shooting and missing. Tony refuses to pass the ball, Manu starts passing, to the wrong team. in mind boggling. Give the guy with the hot hand the in ball. God dammit.

[SA210]

I ate Pop

[Clipper Nation]

Honestly I kinda agree. Your post cemented that lol. I sometimes think Rivers is a good coach, then in the back of my mind I think, wasn't he in Orlando when they started the season like 1-100 and got fired? Lol.

He was also in Orlando when he led a Bobcats-level team to .500 and almost the playoffs, winning Coach of the Year in the process.... seriously, that team's starting lineup was Darrell Armstrong, Tariq Abdul-Wahad, Monty Williams, Bo Outlaw, and John Amaechi

[ElNono]

Doc Rivers is a rah rah guy, tbh... his best years coincided with Thibs being his assistant coach, which is no coincidence at all...

[spurspokesman]

Pop is my choice. But..... He is a great coach that makes not so great decisions at not so great times.

[Blake]

Give Larry Brown Tim Duncan and Larry Brown easily has 6 les right now. Brown had a Piston team that beat the Lakers in the Finals and took us to 7 games...with no superstars...none.

Larry Brown has made "questionable" in game decisions too.

The Spurs rallied, but another bad pass did them in.

San Antonio had cut Portland's lead to 108-105 with five seconds left when seldom-used Reggie Williams' inbounds pass was intercepted by Porter to preserve the victory for Portland, which will play host to the Suns in Game 1 of the Western Conference finals Monday night.After the buzzer, Porter celebrated the Trail Blazers' first trip to the conference finals since 1977 by making a bad pass of his own--into the stands.

It took seven games and another overtime period for the Spurs' inexperience to surface a final time and for Portland's poise to take control for good. When Larry Brown, the Spurs' coach, said: "I'm proud of my \o7 kids\f7 ," he may have hit on precisely why San Antonio lost the series.*

http://articles.latimes.com/1990-05-...ference-finals

This loss left the worst taste in my mouth of any game I've ever seen, fwiw.

[Obstructed_View]

Apparently, every coach in Europe. I'm not sure why it's such a big deal to wish that your coach would play his best players in crunch-time of a le-clinching game or to consider fouling when you're up three and have the best free-throw shooting squad in franchise history.

[Baam]

The hilarious thing is how big the cult of Pop is and how spursfans were laughing at coaches like Brooks last year or Jackson and Spoelstra this year only to eat crow year after year. Hey any coach looks good with great players, Pop is a good mentor and all but he's not a great coach to me, very rigid, bad at in-game adjustments and so on.

[Brazil]

Doc Rivers overated
Thib doesn't know how to manage the minutes of his players, his players don't seem to respect him (see cleared since 2 months refusing to play)... so no
Bud is a disciple of Pop so I prefer the mentor than the jedi plus he is not tested yet
Tim player/coach ? the ? a lot of this board complains he is not enough vocal. overall don't think the player coach experience has been very successful over the years
PJ ? PJ is surely one of the greatest coach of all time but his stuff is triangle. Spurs are gonna change their all philosophy ? gonna take a bit of time and we are running out of it


Pop lead a heavy aged big 3 and a 70 MUSD roster to the finals playing 7 games against one the toughest team in years and guys want to get ride of him

[Brazil]

fools

[Kidd K]

Doc Rivers is a rah rah guy, tbh... his best years coincided with Thibs being his assistant coach, which is no coincidence at all...

Yep. Thibedeau is better than Doc Rivers. Thibs has no mind for offense. . .at all. But he's better.

That's a good point though, if you look at Doc's record without Thibs, it's not that impressive. It's just a little above average.

[superbigtime]

let me ask a question. why are there so many mental midgets on the spurs teams year after year? manu, green, neal, bonner, heck throw in RJ, Mason. Doesn't the coach have some culpability here? Or is it just bad luck. Spurs make a lot of lemonade with d leaguers, but it's not an issue of talent. These guys are all soft in the head.

[ElNono]

I'm more concerned about the fairweather fans, tbh....

I think this might finally be Bonner's postseason to not suck. He's not going to play A+ ball, but a B or B- is going to be reality. Bonner has a little mojo working... Hopefully the time off won't make it disappear.

Manu is the man.

I am a Neal fan (or was) ...

Signature win. I just knew Manu was getting that last shot. AT&T was going nuts.

I'd be surprised if Spurs get out of first round. They turn into vaginas in the playoffs, bunch of less softies with no confidence. Painful to witness. I'm renewing my season tix anyway.

Ginobili = My idol

Manu makes all other players, even superstars, seem ordinary and conventional.

[superbigtime]

Quotes taken out of context, so what. I can and I can brag, this is still my team. Manu's flashes of brilliance from time to time get me excited, he's still a hero of mine. but even heros need to retire. That quote about Bonner, ouch, yeah i'd like to take that one back for sure. I said Bonner and mojo in the same sentence?