Snowden: Hero or Traitor?

[Winehole23]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=202316

[pgardn]

If you think Plame is relevant to the discussion, you're living in the past. Thomas Drake, John Kiriakou and Richard Barlow are a bit closer in time, all three got it much worse than Plame, and that's just off the top of my head. Obama puts Bush in the shade wrt whistleblowers. There are a number of searchable threads on this topic that might bolster your pose of knowledgeability . . .

Wa Po broke both goofball.
Got an award for one, the other... Ask Robert Novak ( he probably won't answer)

And we are a bit uppity today aren't we. Last time you asked me to explain myself with my misreading of Syria and gas, that misreading pointed out by myself, was in the same thread.

So take your own advice big fella.

[Winehole23]

deflection, grasping at straws. lol uppity.

[Winehole23]

lol declaring victory in past threads

[Winehole23]

your bs is particularly weak today, pgardn.

[pgardn]

lol declaring victory in past threads

Declaring victory...

WTF?

This is some sort of game and you are keeping score?
So what conference am I in and do I have a chance to make the playoffs?

[pgardn]

your bs is particularly weak today, pgardn.

Well darn.

Does Walmart sell a BS meter?
I wish to practice so I can meet your lofty standards.

[Winehole23]

feel free to rejoin the conversation once you've caught up.

[pgardn]

feel free to rejoin the conversation once you've caught up.

Thats what you said last time, and then thanked me for explaining.


And thanks for assigning yourself the role of welcoming committee.
I think I will sit this one out. I'm way behind and would not prematurely declare myself a victor among what are opinions.

[Winehole23]

you got nothing? how unsurprising...

[pgardn]

Information:

What do the people represented by a democratic government have the right to know?
Some information, if made public, could be dangerous/detrimental for individuals or the entire population represented by their government. Other information might be deemed absolutely necessary for a government to release given that a government by the people and for the people to survive as labeled.

Its a very old problem. It will continue to be.

Sorry Ms. Crutchfield, I don't want to play anymore.
Maybe later. Don't tell my parents.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Wine had a day drunk going on it seems.

[pgardn]

Wine had a day drunk going on it seems.

Ahhh...

My fault for not being around long enough to know better.

[Winehole23]

Fuzzy diagnoses me as alcoholic based on, well, I don't really know. He also does free psych workups. Knows all sorts of stuff about posters he's never met.

His advice is worth what you pay for it.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy diagnoses me as alcoholic based on, well, I don't really know. He also does free psych workups. Knows all sorts of stuff about posters he's never met.

His advice is worth what you pay for it.

All that and you never say that you weren't drinking. I diagnose it because I have seen others drunk behave the same way. It's not particularly difficult to figure out. I also do not comment on you being an alcoholic or not. If I have then I was in the wrong because I have no way of knowing why you drink.

OTOH, stream of consciousness spam posting is what it is.

[Winehole23]

All that and you never say that you weren't drinking.

it's none of your business what I do, but I wasn't. that said, I reserve the right to drink whenever I please.

I also do not comment on you being an alcoholic or not.

oh but you do. I can find examples if you like.

OTOH, stream of consciousness spam posting is what it is.

all discussion is stream of consciousness, more or less. this is a discussion board, is it not?

[Nbadan]

hero?

Edward Snowden set to leak secrets about Arab leaders - report
Source: Arabian Business

Edward Snowden, a former US intelligence operative who last year began leaking details of the activities by US spy agencies, is reportedly set to release details of secrets related to the Arab world.

According to the Al-Arab Al-Yawm website, sources close to Snowden's Arabic translation team said the new leaks would be related to leaders and governments in the Arab world and will reportedly reveal what Arab leaders told Americans behind closed doors and agreements they, made with the CIA, the Middle East Monitor reported.

"The Arabic part will trigger a tsunami in the Arab world," Al-Arab Al-Yawm claimed. The latest leaks are expected to include details on Syria, Palestine and Turkey.

Snowden, a former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor, caused international uproar last June when he disclosed details of the extent of surveillance and electronic intelligence gathering by his former employers and by the British equivalent GCHQ to the Washington Post and Britain's The Guardian newspaper.

Read more: http://www.arabianbusiness.com/edwar...rt-548367.html

[Infinite_limit]

hero?

Edward Snowden set to leak secrets about Arab leaders - report
Source: Arabian Business


Read more: http://www.arabianbusiness.com/edwar...rt-548367.html

If you don't live in the USA, you want to see it crumble.

[boutons_deux]

[Winehole23]

65 things we've learned about the NSA in the last year:

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2014/0...-know-year-ago

[boutons_deux]

A Year After Snowden, U.S. Tech Losing Trust Overseas


http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcons...m_campaign=app

[RandomGuy]

Not sure I have weighed in.

Hero, barely.

Shone a light on that needed light.

[Winehole23]

A Year After Snowden, U.S. Tech Losing Trust Overseas


http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechcons...m_campaign=app

there's a tangible economic downside to this. the NSA's electronic dragnet has cost US companies billions already.

[Winehole23]

Clapper minimizes the damage:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...d9e_story.html

[boutons_deux]

Clapper minimizes the damage:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...d9e_story.html

Clapper's a spook. THEY ALL LIE.