Spurs Sign Manu Ginobili to 2 year/$14 Million Deal

[Baam]

You don't think Tiago and Manu get offered identical contracts in the open market?

I think Tiago easily gets that from POR. Not so sure about Manu but wouldn't be surprised if he did considering the money other 2 guards are getting. People like to throw out Ray Allen's deal as a comparison but Ray is a one trick pony that isn't asked to carry and offense for any period of time tbh.

Portland is the front runner to land Robin Lopez at 5M/a year, they are much smarter than us...

[ElNono]

Manu can't run a offense. Can't shoot either. He couldn't even be successful in the starting lineup where he wasn't the focus.

come on Nathan, I know you're frustrated, but you aren't that dumb.

[Chomag]

ing , thats way to much .

[marinoman]

well according to espn this is what some of the remaining FAs are worth (this is the avg of the 5 analysts they asked)
espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/5-on-5-130703/what-top-nba-free-agents-worth

Andre Iguodala ($50.6 million, 4 years= $12.7 million/yr)
Josh Smith ($52.6 million, 4 years= $13.2 million/yr)
Andrew Bynum ($72.3 million, 2.6 years= $14.5 million/yr)
Monta Ellis ($17.5 million, 3.2 years= $5.5 million/yr)
Nikola Pekovic ($50.4 million, 4.2 years= $12 million/yr)

We could still get Monta, dont know if thats good thing though

[timvp]

Like I said in the other thread, $7M was Manu's market value ... so I'm not upset or surprised by the number.

In a perfect world, one would hope Manu would have taken a smaller number but if this is where he drew the line, what else could the Spurs do? He's still a good basketball value at $7M -- and he's worth more than that business-wise when you factor in his fan favorite status.

IMO, TD's market value was $12-14M and he took $10 per season. TP is also on a contract below his market value. Manu's market value was $7M and he took $7M. It's a little disappointing but considering he could have held the team ransom for $8M+ if he wanted to push it, this is far from the worst case scenario.

[ElNono]

I think Tiago easily gets that from POR. Not so sure about Manu but wouldn't be surprised if he did considering the money other 2 guards are getting. People like to throw out Ray Allen's deal as a comparison but Ray is a one trick pony that isn't asked to carry and offense for any period of time tbh.

And gonna be 38 years old next season...

[Chomag]

Guess this is pretty much it then. No ,more money.

[Baam]

Like I said in the other thread, $7M was Manu's market value ... so I'm not upset or surprised by the number.

In a perfect world, one would hope Manu would have taken a smaller number but if this is where he drew the line, what else could the Spurs do? He's still a good basketball value at $7M -- and he's worth more than that business-wise when you factor in his fan favorite status.

IMO, TD's market value was $12-14M and he took $10 per season. TP is also on a contract below his market value. Manu's market value was $7M and he took $7M. It's a little disappointed but considering he could have held the team ransom for $8M+ if he wanted to push it, this is far from the worst case scenario.

What about Splitter's deal?

[DesignatedT]

Tims value was more like 15-16M and he took 10. Dude is a boss.

[hommeaetage]

Well, on the bright side I won't bother signing up for league pass

[timvp]

What about Splitter's deal?

What about it? He got a contract right at his market value without any hometown discount ... kinda like Manu.

[slick'81]

We just have to hope this team as is has another 82 game season with another loong playoff push in them

[Bruno]

You don't think Tiago and Manu get offered identical contracts in the open market?

For Tiago, maybe.
For Manu, no.

Manu market value outside Spurs was likely very low. My guess is that the best multiyears offers he would have received by other teams would have been for the room exception or the mini MLE.

[ElNono]

Like I said in the other thread, $7M was Manu's market value ... so I'm not upset or surprised by the number.

In a perfect world, one would hope Manu would have taken a smaller number but if this is where he drew the line, what else could the Spurs do? He's still a good basketball value at $7M -- and he's worth more than that business-wise when you factor in his fan favorite status.

IMO, TD's market value was $12-14M and he took $10 per season. TP is also on a contract below his market value. Manu's market value was $7M and he took $7M. It's a little disappointed but considering he could have held the team ransom for $8M+ if he wanted to push it, this is far from the worst case scenario.

I was hoping for something near $5m too, especially with the little wiggle room the Spurs have... but I agree this number shouldn't come as a shock either.

[TheGreatYacht]

Like I said in the other thread, $7M was Manu's market value ... so I'm not upset or surprised by the number.

In a perfect world, one would hope Manu would have taken a smaller number but if this is where he drew the line, what else could the Spurs do? He's still a good basketball value at $7M -- and he's worth more than that business-wise when you factor in his fan favorite status.

IMO, TD's market value was $12-14M and he took $10 per season. TP is also on a contract below his market value. Manu's market value was $7M and he took $7M. It's a little disappointed but considering he could have held the team ransom for $8M+ if he wanted to push it, this is far from the worst case scenario.

Even timvp admits that Manu is a little more selfish than TP and TD.

[Leetonidas]

At the end, I think Spurs overpaid (not by much) both Splitter and Ginobili.

The second year of Manu's contract is also quite and issue. Ginobili will be almost 38 years old for the playoffs of this second season. Ask yourself if a 38 years old Ginobili will be worth $7M?

At least he will be an expiring contract. Is it still possible to do one of those Kurt Thomas/Brent Barry trades where he comes back under the new CBA?

[SpursSerb]

So much for him being loyal and taking a pay cut.Everything above 5 mil for him is too much.

[slick'81]

Anyone thinking manu would get more then mle as a fa r crazy

[timvp]

For Tiago, maybe.
For Manu, no.

Manu market value outside Spurs was likely very low. My guess is that the best multiyears offers he would have received by other teams would have been for the room exception or the mini MLE.

Disagree. If Re and Korver are getting more guaranteed dollars, Ginobili would have been able to get this contract on the open market if anyone actually thought he would leave the Spurs.

[hommeaetage]

At least he will be an expiring contract. Is it still possible to do one of those Kurt Thomas/Brent Barry trades where he comes back under the new CBA?

I don't think players can come back under the new CBA

[Bruno]

Disagree. If Re and Korver are getting more guaranteed dollars, Ginobili would have been able to get this contract on the open market if anyone actually thought he would leave the Spurs.

OK, so what teams would have offered him that?

[manufan10]

[ElNono]

Manu gets that contract outside of SA... no doubt. Plus there's a bunch of coaches that love him. If you don't think Atlanta doesn't tender a similar offer you're nuts.

[TheGreatYacht]

OK, so what teams would have offered him that?

LOL nobody.

[tuncaboylu]

Portland is the front runner to land Robin Lopez at 5M/a year, they are much smarter than us...

Robin Lopez is not free-agent. What are you talking about?