Bomb Mecca?

[MannyIsGod]

Your right. I'm sure everyone effected by the blast of a nuclear weapon will be a terrorist who will be heartbroken because you destroyed Mecca. Saudi Arabia will probably send George Bush a Hallmark ECard thanking him. , they might even start celebrating the fourth of July.

Maybe the United States can blow up few Hindu Temples, Nuke Jeruselum, and carpet bomb the Vatican all in one day!

[MannyIsGod]

In fact, I think that nuking Mecca is such a great way to end the war on terror and beat terrorists that we should just do it now! Why wait for our own people to die? Lets do it now and stop this thing!

I mean think of all the benefits. No more long searches before you get on a plane. No more bad movies with George Clooney fighting off terrorists. No more Michael Moore movies. No more Susan Surranden and Tim Robins led Actors Against America events. In fact, I think with all the spare time Americans will have, you will probably see a large increase in sports such as Wrestling and a large enrollment in "Being A Great Mascot 101.

Good times!

[clubalien]

our forien policy is "nuke and retreat" We nuke the es and then we move to a new planet, to bad no one inform the policy makers is we cannot go to another planet

[Cant_Be_Faded]

stopped militant japanese. and those guys had comikazes (s/p)

yeah, like the US has the guts to do that.

hitler, and stalin would have done it WITH NO PROBLEM AT ALL.

i think it would pose a strong deterent to at least let them know a nuke is pointed in that directions.

Dude thats what we've been doing with our nukes since the last time we actually used them....

[clubalien]

I know what if we all became muslims and replaced our government with a mula, that will show the terroreists

[whottt]

North Korea of course being a country, Al Queda being a group. What was it you said Whottt? About just because you don't see the difference doesn't mean its not there? Something like that, right?

Come up with a better solution...

[clubalien]

man you underestimate our science knowledge we need to find a "muslim", "arab", "terroerist" gene and then just release a bio weapon
were all about targeted killing

[Cant_Be_Faded]

man you underestimate our science knowledge we need to find a "muslim", "arab", "terroerist" gene and then just release a bio weapon
were all about targeted killing

lol

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, those Muslim genes need to be found!

[whottt]

Manny, Chump etc...

If we shouldn't bomb Mecca because of the acts of a small group of terrorists...

Why then should we let them dictacte our foreign policy...(IE get out of Iraq, and the middle East)...if it's only a small group of people?

[ChumpDumper]

If we shouldn't bomb Mecca because of the acts of a small group of terrorists...

Why then should we let them dictacte our foreign policy...(IE get out of Iraq, and the middle East)...if it's only a small group of people?

I think we are in Iraq for wholly different reasons, and besides -- it's our mess to clean up. We're going to have to be there for many years, or it's going to degenerate into civil war rather quickly. I never said pull out of Iraq now that we are there -- I said it wasn't a great idea to go in the first place BEACAUSE we would have to be there so long.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Manny, Chump etc...

If we shouldn't bomb Mecca because of the acts of a small group of terrorists...

Why then should we let them dictacte our foreign policy...(IE get out of Iraq, and the middle East)...if it's only a small group of people?

i would say mindless voters like destino have more influence on our foreign policy than al-qaeda

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I think we are in Iraq for wholly different reasons, and besides -- it's our mess to clean up. We're going to have to be there for many years, or it's going to degenerate into civil war rather quickly. I never said pull out of Iraq now that we are there -- I said it wasn't a great idea to go in the first place BEACAUSE we would have to be there so long.

you and every other rational american

[Extra Stout]

The detonation of a nuclear weapon on U.S. soil with massive casualties would change the rules of engagement radically. We would enter a mode of self-preservation. The killing of innocents becomes more acceptable under that scenario. Civil rights go out the door. It would be total war.

The exact scope of that war would depend upon who hit us, and how. Suitcase or ICBM?

I do say that if we cannot come up with an effective means of discriminating between innocent Muslims and terrorist extremists, and cannot devise an effective way of thwarting future attacks, be it through increased security or changing the culture over there, such that we remain vulnerable to getting murdered millions at a time, then ultimately we would have to start slaughtering Muslims around the world indiscriminately until there just aren't enough left to hurt us in a meaningful way. The blood would flow to the height of a horse's shoulder. But that is the absolute worst-case scenario, and more or less is Armageddon. (Seeing it all from heaven, Jesus might just come down with his heavenly host and put a stop to it himself.) We would never again be "America" if we had to do that. Our ideals and values would be gone and it would represent the worst possible defeat short of annihilation. The world's environment would be devastated in such a war. Things would never be the same ever again, and we would never return to the kind of prosperity and happiness we have enjoyed during this era. But it still would be the preferrable alternative to our own eradication.

I'm not sure there would ever be a strategic benefit to dropping a nuclear bomb on Mecca as a first retaliation. If you do that, you're committing to have to kill all 1.2 billion Muslims anyway.

[Mr. Ash]

You know, I was wondering how y'all got 100 messages into this without some Jesus smack talk.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

DEFCON 1 Maximum force readiness.

I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't rioting by then.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

If we ever see that unfortunate day when a nuke goes off in a US city...

Anywhere we suspect there to be Al Qaeda/AQ affiliate organizations in numbers will be nuked shortly thereafter.

The Pakistan/Afghanistan border. Much of northern Africa. Parts of deep East Asia. I suspect that Syria and Iran would be holes in the earth too.

The Saudis would probably be given an ultimatem - all the bad guys they know of in 24 hours, or else they get the Tehran treatment.

Probably similar ultimatums in every country where we have somewhat friendly relations but know that the governments are letting AQ types hang out (places like Yemen).

It'd be a mess, is what it'd be.

[MannyIsGod]

I agree with your scenario, with the exception of wide spread nuclear use. There simply isn't a use for them to do something tactical weapons could do. Then again, Bush or a president like him might want to use them for their most effect purpose: psychological warfare. It is debatable how effective that would be to people who blow themselves up on busses, but I don't see our current leadership as the most rash people.

However, doing that and nuking Mecca are 2 vastly different scenarios.

[Vashner]

Nothing is gonna get this done but Boots and M16's on the ground.. .with lots of backup. Ok nuke the out of Somalia.. they don't even have a govt or UN rep so..
But the rest is off limits.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Whoops, backup...

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Congressman Says He Doesn't Advocate Bombing Mecca

POSTED: 9:36 pm EDT July 18, 2005
UPDATED: 9:40 pm EDT July 18, 2005

DENVER -- Colorado U.S. Rep. Tom Tancredo said he was talking about deterrence when he raised the possibility of bombing Mecca if Muslim terrorists set off nuclear weapons in American cities.

On a Florida radio show Friday, Tancredo was asked what the response should be to a nuclear attack on U.S. cities. He answered that if fundamentalist Muslims were to blame, "you could take out their holy sites." When he was asked if he meant bombing Mecca, the congressman said, "Yeah."

But in a statement issued Sunday, Tancredo said he was talking about a making a threat that might deter such an attack, insisting: "I do not advocate this."

The Council on American-Islamic Relations has asked to meet with the congressman and is urging the Republican Party to repudiate his remarks.

http://www.local10.com/news/4739592/detail.html

[MannyIsGod]

Let me be the first to say: Bull