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    Beat me to it.

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    why do you think that is?

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    why do you think that is?
    I think you read it before I did, but you could be like a super-fast typist too. What race are you? That might have something to do with it.

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    I think you read it before I did, but you could be like a super-fast typist too. What race are you? That might have something to do with it.
    I'm human race. Does that make me a good typist?

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    Without knowing the particulars of every federal hate crime case ever prosecuted, I would say it's because such prosecutions have to be based upon federal law, and more specifically brought when federally protected activities such as those defined in the Civil Rights Act of 1968 are violated. Just as whoever hehateme's real screen name is failed to show any racial bias or any violation of federally protected activities, the same could probably said for most crimes in general and the system doesn't seem to have much of a problem successfully convicting and sentencing blacks under regular ol' laws tbh.

    I'm not really a fan of hate crime legislation, but it's easy to see why it exists. If whitey likes to feel oppressed by these particular laws, he is free to but I don't quite understand feeling sorry for criminals just because they are white.
    Not very recent but at least a starting point. What do you think causes the disparity?
    "Analysis of the 1999 FBI statistics by John Perazzo in 2001 found that white violence against black people was 28 times more likely (1 in 45 incidents) to be labelled as a hate crime than black violence against white people (1 in 1254 incidents)."

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    I'm human race. Does that make me a good typist?
    Possible.

    Not very recent but at least a starting point. What do you think causes the disparity?
    "Analysis of the 1999 FBI statistics by John Perazzo in 2001 found that white violence against black people was 28 times more likely (1 in 45 incidents) to be labelled as a hate crime than black violence against white people (1 in 1254 incidents)."
    My original answer need not change now that you cited wikipedia.

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    Not very recent but at least a starting point. What do you think causes the disparity?
    "Analysis of the 1999 FBI statistics by John Perazzo in 2001 found that white violence against black people was 28 times more likely (1 in 45 incidents) to be labelled as a hate crime than black violence against white people (1 in 1254 incidents)."
    That makes sense. My studies show that white people hate blacks about 1000 times more than blacks hate whites. If you read the abstract, you'll see that most black on white attacks stem from the lack of humanity in the African American. To simplify, use the analogy of a dog biting a person. Does the dog hate the person? No. It just cannot control it's animal nature.

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    My original answer need not change now that you cited wikipedia.
    So you are okay with how hate crime cases are prosecuted, even though whites are convicted at diproportionately higher rate.

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    That makes sense. My studies show that white people hate blacks about 1000 times more than blacks hate whites. If you read the abstract, you'll see that most black on white attacks stem from the lack of humanity in the African American. To simplify, use the analogy of a dog biting a person. Does the dog hate the person? No. It just cannot control it's animal nature.
    Did you know that dogs can not make out the facial features on a black person and it confuses them leading them to often times bark and growl?

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    So you are okay with how hate crime cases are prosecuted, even though whites are convicted at diproportionately higher rate.
    I already said I was not a fan, but not for the reason of poor whitey. I saw nothing about conviction rates in your wiki quote. If you have those, post them.

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    Did you know that dogs can not make out the facial features on a black person and it confuses them leading them to often times bark and growl?
    . I can't even make out the facial features on a black person.
    But instead of barking and growling, I usually just roll my eyes.

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    I already said I was not a fan, but not for the reason of poor whitey. I saw nothing about conviction rates in your wiki quote. If you have those, post them.
    Not a fan of them either, just think they should be charged fairly if they are going to use them.

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    Not a fan of them either, just think they should be charged fairly if they are going to use them.
    Since at least one study shows blacks are already 20 percent more likely than whitey to go to prison for the same crime and get 10 percent more time when they get there, there might be bigger problems in the system than poor whitey's getting an extra few years for lynching.

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    Since at least one study shows blacks are already 20 percent more likely than whitey to go to prison for the same crime and get 10 percent more time when they get there, there might be bigger problems in the system than poor whitey's getting an extra few years for lynching.
    I agree blacks get screwed more on prison time for similar crimes, but I'm discussing hate crimes, where it appears whites get screwed more.

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    So you are okay with how hate crime cases are prosecuted, even though whites are convicted at diproportionately higher rate.
    i don't see nothing wrong the rate of conviction. ya'll need to chill on the hatred.

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    dragging s from trucks and shooting up mosques isn't cool, doggie. chill.

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    dragging s from trucks and shooting up mosques isn't cool, doggie. chill.
    dragging s from trucks is definitely NOT cool.

    shooting up mosques is not real cool but probably more acceptable because of video games and movies

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    i don't see nothing wrong the rate of conviction. ya'll need to chill on the hatred.
    Of course you don't

    If I can admit that blacks get screwed on being charged and imprisoned unfairly, why is it so hard for you to admit the same thing happens to whites when being charged with hate crimes?

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    I agree blacks get screwed more on prison time for similar crimes, but I'm discussing hate crimes, where it appears whites get screwed more.
    Prison is prison and blacks are sent disappopriately. I'd rather see that fixed than crying about conviction rates of "hate crimes".

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    Of course you don't

    If I can admit that blacks get screwed on being charged and imprisoned unfairly, why is it so hard for you to admit the same thing happens to whites when being charged with hate crimes?
    there is nothing to admit, though. historically, y'all have committed the most hate crimes and its only fair y'all are convicted accordingly.

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    Regardless...things probably run smoother without blacks.

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    I agree blacks get screwed more on prison time for similar crimes, but I'm discussing hate crimes, where it appears whites get screwed more.
    In what way?

    You really have to get into what each prosecution is about to make that statement with any certainty. It's like this -- lynching is a hate crime, right?

    Well, what's the more likely lynching scenario? Whites lynching blacks or blacks lynching whites?

    Also, show is more likely to be a member of an organization where that membership is pretty strong evidence of racial bias that could be used in a hate crime case? Whites or blacks?

    I think you are oversimplifying the issue.
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    Prison is prison and blacks are sent disappopriately. I'd rather see that fixed than crying about conviction rates of "hate crimes".
    This is hilarious. So during the Trayvon case, when people were screaming about the black on black killing numbers, you were saying "who cares, its the minor % of racially driven crimes that bother me". But when this happens, you use the exact opposite logic?

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    In what way?

    You really have to get into what each prosecution is about to make that statement with any certainty. It's like this -- lynching is a hate crime, right?

    Well, what's the more likely lynching scenario? Whites lynching blacks or blacks lynching whites?

    Also, show is more likely to be a member of an organization where that membership is pretty strong evidence of racial bias that could be used in a hate crime case? Whites or blacks?

    I think you are oversimplifying the issue.
    Are you presuming to take into account that a lynching hasn't occured in over 50 years? Why use that statistic (I assume as just an example from the past which has no preclude in the present or future unless lynchings become the norm again)? Has the use and implementation of the word (and act) "hate crime" evolved since then? yes or no? What are the stipulations of a hate crime to you? Why the use of a double standard in the same predicament when it comes to the white race in terms of a hate crime? What are the stipulations of "racial profiling" and who sets the standard of where it begins and ends for each race?

    I'm all ears.

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    Are you presuming to take into account that a lynching hasn't occured in over 50 years?
    Wrong again.

    Get one fact right.

    Just one, honky.

    Your persecuted white guy act isn't flying.

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