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    I wish I could find a ruling on that because I may be making up, but just wanted to point out it may not take 100% proof to keep Manziel off of the field. They could simply suspend him if he meets with compliance officials down the road and they feel he's providing false information or isn't being completely truthful a la Dez Bryant at Oklahoma State in 2009. Manzie is sidelined and the investigation goes on from there.
    You are correct. The burden of proof here is not the same as in court. Also, where you referred to where his assistant dealing with money would be enough to suspend Johnny, it's called the Cecil Newton rule.

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    If a broker came to the NCAA and signed a statement that saying they paid Johnny for autographs, the NCAA would probably act on that--Johnny could deny it, but if they had any other credible evidence supporting the claim, they would probably go with a mere preponderance pointing toward a violation. But, without a statement from a person involved, they are going to want some pretty high quality cir stantial evidence before taking any action, and it doesn't appear that they have any such evidence at this point in time (they don't have the most recently release videos, and probably never will since they were illegally recorded without Manziel's consent).

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    Jay Bilas.

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    So they're going to start taking the word of a bunch of low life collector dealers, some of whom won't even cooperate with them? Just seems like a bad road to go down for the NCAA
    Do we have any hard proof that the collector dealers are low life?

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    Do we have any hard proof that the collector dealers are low life?
    I'm sure they're just kids.

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    How did this guy get into A&M? So dumb.

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    How did this guy get into A&M? So dumb.
    He's a perfect definition of an aggy.

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    I think the J.Football thing gets blown way out of proportion (meaning how bad of a guy he is) but he does seem like a db. Also, he has so much money, how you can't rent out private rooms or keep yourself out of the limelight is beyond me.

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    How did this guy get into A&M? So dumb.
    Not sure if this is a serious question, but the qualifications for getting into schools on athletic scholarships are different than they are for regular students.

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    I think the J.Football thing gets blown way out of proportion (meaning how bad of a guy he is) but he does seem like a db. Also, he has so much money, how you can't rent out private rooms or keep yourself out of the limelight is beyond me.
    Money badger.

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    Then they wouldn't be "amateurs."
    Also, this type of argument has always bothered me. Just because something is a rule does not make it fair nor smart. Then comes the inevitable "well then don't participate..." argument. Sure, like there are a ton of options. Throughout history, people have stood up against laws that don't make sense and exploit people. You don't just blindly follow laws all the time. Especially in this case where there isn't a real bad penalty for it and you can make a lot of money.

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    Not sure if this is a serious question, but the qualifications for getting into schools on athletic scholarships are different than they are for regular students.
    Not once Goodhair's diploma mill plan is complete. Don't worry, we'll be ed too.

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    Ha, Bilas loves him some NCAA. He ripped them when Kabongo was suspended.

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    Good thing no one wants David Ash's autograph.

    Well, maybe at church.

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    Also, this type of argument has always bothered me. Just because something is a rule does not make it fair nor smart. Then comes the inevitable "well then don't participate..." argument. Sure, like there are a ton of options. Throughout history, people have stood up against laws that don't make sense and exploit people. You don't just blindly follow laws all the time. Especially in this case where there isn't a real bad penalty for it and you can make a lot of money.
    Well, sitting out half a season could be pretty bad tbh.

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    Not sure how to put videos on here, but check out Johnny's dumb ing manger lol
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC4Zj...ature=youtu.be

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    Well, sitting out half a season could be pretty bad tbh.
    It might, but it doesn't stop him from profiting and pulling in that money until they catch him formally. He is what he is now and despite everything, I don't think this impacts his draft stock too much at all. Teams that fear him will be because of his abilities, not anything else IMO.

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    It might, but it doesn't stop him from profiting and pulling in that money until they catch him formally. He is what he is now and despite everything, I don't think this impacts his draft stock too much at all. Teams that fear him will be because of his abilities, not anything else IMO.
    What do you think his draft position is right now?

    And the dude is loaded already. You can't tell me he really needed the cash for a set of ing rims.

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    Two autograph brokers who shared their stories with me said Johnny Manziel is a good guy and they hope he plays this season
    Awww thanks guys! I'm sure that means the world to him

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    I am not an expert on that - I really have no idea. I don't think he is a consensous anywhere right now as he's all over that board.

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    I am not an expert on that - I really have no idea. I don't think he is a consensous anywhere right now as he's all over that board.
    So it seems like it could affect his draft position.

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    http://www.shopncaasports.com/NCAASp...Shirt_-_Maroon

    Gotta love the NCAA. Putting "Football" on a #2 Jersey. "Only we should be able to profit from your name, not you!"

    Btw, the NCAA discontinued that shirt in their online store and even took the picture down..... ball = fcked

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    So it seems like it could affect his draft position.
    I just said I felt otherwise. His draft spot is about his abilities, not his antics off field (again, this is just my opinion). The reason he is where he is on draft boards at the moment is because of questions about his abilities. People have seen what he can do and sitting out a year while making a lot of money and not risking injury probably isn't a terrible thing for his draft stock. I think that is pretty firmly cemented at this point(wherever teams have him)

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