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Is Josh Childress moonlighting as Kid Quick from Nintendo's Punch Out??
Don't forget these teams are willing to deal with one another - Sanikidze. Childress would be a perfect fit with the Spurs
Is Josh Childress moonlighting as Kid Quick from Nintendo's Punch Out??
That and compared to Collier, Rasho looks like an all-star.They need a center more, and Rasho's deal is a pretty fair one made better by the escalation of the salary cap.
False IMOWhy would we want a good pick?
We don't know how to use good picks!
Exhibit A: David Robinson 1st
Exhibit B: Tim Duncan 1st
Exhibit C: Sean Elliott 3rd
Yeah, who would give up their sixth man, a guy at their deepest position, for what would be their new starting PF and C, for a combined price of about 10-11 million per year, when they could keep said 6th man and pay the only feasible big man left in free agency 10 million per, and have to roll the dice on said big man's bad heart.Hawks suck too bad to give up someone like childress
and why would that be a bad thing?
But if we trade Scola, we will never have three Argentinians in our starting lineup...
In terms of Atlanta Hawks small forwards I would rather have Josh Smith instead of Childress. He is taller, stronger, younger, not quite as good a shooter (both inside and outside of 3 range), better rebounder, equal in assists and steals, and a WAAY better shot blocker. I know its legal according to the CBA but I have a hard time swallowing that they would take on all that salary but it is the Atlanta Hawks after all. Of course the #'s would be closer if it was Nazr and possibly more attractive to Atlanta since he would be off the books next year if they didn't want him.
What's wrong with helping the Hawks continue to screw up their franchise? The Spurs are in the catbird seat somewhat now. They can afford to be choosy with their trades. As of today, they already have a full 10 man rotation and shouldn't have a problem adding two quality role players to fill the final 2 spots on the active roster. That's more than can be said for a lot of NBA teams. Well, that and 2 NBA les in the past 3 seasons.
Also, the Hawks should pay dearly for Rasho and Scola. It's hard to find quality bigs in the NBA and the Spurs would be giving them a frontline for wing players.
dont the knicks have anyone we can use at SF ? Isiah has been making some nice moves lately.
I am 100% against Rasho being trade... anywhere. That will not change.
However, I am researching the Hawks and am slightly cheered up. I forgot Kevin Willis is a hawk. Kevin is a great person and would be a good team mate to my Rasho. = )
would you trade rasho for amare if the salaries worked out
My God!
The Spurs wants to send Rasho to basketball purgatory.
According to the standings sheet I am looking at, the Hawks only won 13 games all season.
They suck worse than I thought they did.
Don't do it Pop!
would you trade rasho for amare if the salaries worked out
Sigh! N
kid quick?
Argentinean President could sign an Executive order giving all the Spurs the ARG citizenship ...
Josh Childress would be nice and the hawks have shown a tendency to be stupid. Sans cap ramifications Rasho/Scola for Childress straight up I think i might pull the trigger.
The kid was killer at Stanford a couple back.
Hes making less than $3million a year so the salaries are hard to make work. Hes at about 2.7 mil a year and with rasho at 6.7 youd need about 3.5+ more to make it work. Diaw makes 1.3/year so not much help. Tony Delk on the other hand makes close to 3 mil a year and suddenly your figures are closer.
More than likely the Hawks are trying to offer Harrington. The salaries make too mcuh sense. That said i would only take that if a first was included. Probably wont happen.
Would Rasho/Scola for Delk/Childress work?
I think it would be close. Throw in Diaw and the salaries are almost exact.
I think it was chump dumper that stated that the salaries don't have to match do to the Hawks being under the cap.
Having three gold medal winners cannot be a bad thing, eh pato?
On further review Delk/Childress works.
Salaries
Josh Childress $2.66
Tony Delk $3.38
Total $6.04
Rasho $6.72
According to the 115% + 100k rule that means that that package could go for a return of $7.05
The trade works.
This however leaves the Hawks with no point guard.
However with Smith and Harrison, Childress is expendable.
I still say that they want to move Harrington though.
True they only have $18 million on the books at the moment. Did not think of that.
I wouldn't mind Delk on this team.
FYI: the rule has been changed to "125% +$100K" in the new CBA. And if the Hawks are under the cap (as we assume they will be) then you wouldn't have to match salaries. It could be Rasho for Childress straight up.
Yeah but the point of this thread is that the Hawks want Scola.
Scola for Childress doesnt work. We cant take on salary for nothing.
If Scola is in the equation, you have to include Rasho.
Scola/Rasho for Childress is bad juju. Atlanta would have to sweeten the pot.
Unless they are going to resign Lue there is no way they are going to move Delk.
If that is the case then what do we ask for? a second round pick?
If we trade for Harrington ill puke. We could sign Robinson for much less money.
...and/or Rasho.
Agreed.Scola for Childress doesnt work. We cant take on salary for nothing.
If Scola is in the equation, you have to include Rasho.
Scola/Rasho for Childress is bad juju. Atlanta would have to sweeten the pot.
Yeah, definitely a pick of some sort. Also, Spurs could ask for the rights to the Turkish kid the Hawks drafted this year.Unless they are going to resign Lue there is no way they are going to move Delk.
If that is the case then what do we ask for? a second round pick?
Agreed.If we trade for Harrington ill puke. We could sign Robinson for much less money.
San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Radoslav Nesterovic
7-0 C from Slovenia
5.9 ppg, 6.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 25.5 minutes
Luis Scola
6-9 from Buenos Aires (Argentina)
No games yet played in 2004/05
Incoming
Tony Delk
6-2 PG from Kentucky
11.9 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 1.9 apg in 23.9 minutes
Josh Childress
6-8 SF from Stanford
10.1 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 1.9 apg in 29.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +16.1 ppg, +1.7 rpg, and +2.8 apg.
Successful Scenario
Due to San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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I don't see Atlanta foolishly trading Childress. Josh Smith has all the killer dunks but Childress is the one with real talent and a great work ethic, and I think they know what they have.
But if the trade for Rasho-Childress is somehow there, I'd nab it. Throwing in Scola would suggest something on the other side, but I don't see what Delk could do for the Spurs; it'd have to be a draft pick, and I don't see Atlanta doing that, either (since they know it would be high).
Harrington for Rasho makes sense. But at this point I'm pulling more for Robinson since I'm buying into what people have said about Harrington wanting to start, and he might jet after one season.
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