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    I think it is important, but not when it comes to new cars. He can't tell me anything about the vehicle I'm not going to learn online.

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    I think it is important, but not when it comes to new cars. He can't tell me anything about the vehicle I'm not going to learn online.
    I bet he could do something to make you think differently.

    You think it is now not important....that is not what you have been saying......imagine if a real salesman were to talk to you.

    Mutual repect beteen parties is way underrated.
    Last edited by cherylsteele; 07-27-2005 at 06:38 PM.

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    traded the van for it, straight up

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    fact is, dirty little just got ed hard on a 90/10 basis.. 90% was his fault and 10% was the dealers fault... i bet the salesman even laughed when dude drove off the lot! i know i would've! hahah...

    no test drive above 30mph, no mechanic inspection, what the do you expect.. like you've heard many, many times, "if it sounds to good to be true..."

    don't come in here looking for sympathy when you obviously didn't give buying a car enough thought.. you'd think you'd know how to buy a car now since you supposedly have so many!

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    What's nice is when dealers let you take a car home for a few days to see if you like it.

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    What's nice is when dealers let you take a car home for a few days to see if you like it.

    My boyfriend has done that on many occasions.

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    fact is, dirty little just got ed hard on a 90/10 basis.. 90% was his fault and 10% was the dealers fault... i bet the salesman even laughed when dude drove off the lot! i know i would've! hahah...
    that's because you come from a segment of the population that believes that screwing people over is how you succeed in life. the payment on this thing is just under 5% of my monthly income. i mean, if screwing people over helps the salesman break $30k a year, bully for him, the $ doesn't matter that much to me.

    on top of that, at least one person i know was seriously considering buying a toyota. they still may, but it won't be from that dealership. so how exactly does this cons ute a 'win' for the dealership?

    judging by the response i received in this thread, i'd say most disagree with your view on what went down. also, i'd say most think you are living in the trailer with your cousin cleetus.

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    I bet he could do something to make you think differently.

    You think it is now not important....that is not what you have been saying......imagine if a real salesman were to talk to you.

    Mutual repect beteen parties is way underrated.


    The point being that I am not going to pay a salesman who is trying to screw me to get his comission becasue of a better sales experience!

    You make allusions to products that come with flat prices and try to compare the 2. Cars are usualy on a negotiated price, and the salesman makes money based on how high he can keep the price. The more he sells me the car for, the more he makes.

    Thats not the case at a place like Circuit City like you keep alluding too. The salesmen there have no say so on the price and I don't have to haggle a TV price down in order to ensure I get the best deal. Their job is to provide me with service, not to screw me.

    The more a carsalesman screws someone, the more he makes! You keep trying to tell me that I'm paying for service, but the service should be just as good regardless of what I pay for the car. If I have to pay extra for your boyfriend to give me good service, he can keep it. I'm paying for a 20 thousand dollar car, good service and his respect should come in the damn glove box.

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    So what's the deal with Gunn's one simple price then?

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    So what's the deal with Gunn's one simple price then?
    You know, I'm really not sure. I don't think their salespeople work on comission though. At least not the way other car salespeople do.

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    The information available on the Net about vehicles has shifted the power from the dealerships to the consumer. That's because knowledge is power and through the Internet a vast universe of information is readily available. This is good news for dealerships whose operations practice the equitable "one simple price" method.

    One simple price is a national automotive trend that eliminates a commissioned sales force. All vehicles are clearly marked with a compe ive price and customers enjoy a "no hassle" buying experience.
    http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantoni...14/focus4.html

    That is from an article written 7 years ago.

    I would wager to bet the power has shifted even further into the consumers corner since then.

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    One Simple Price

    Menu Pricing

    No Haggle Pricing

    All of them are the same. They screw you, the consumer. You can still haggle a "Menu" price. Do some research, go to several dealers, and focus on a certain vehicle before you go shopping. Don't ever buy on the first trip and don't be afraid to make a counter offer.

    Check out this site for some good info:

    www.carbuyingtips.com

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    I would go with a set price on the vehicle I wanted. It would be damn close to invoice. There are ways they make money even if they sell the car at invoice.

    Has anyone here actually paid MSRP?

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    i would say focus on pursuing a better career than being a car salesman. if you get screwed by them, sobeit, at least you still aren't doing what they do.

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    yeah, i bought from gunn and i paid lower than their "one simple price." they wouldn't budge, i left, went to all the dealerships.. finally someone beat them. i called them back, said i was giving them one more chance, they still said, "sorry, we don't haggle." i said, thanks, i just appreciated their time and how they handled themselves, etc.. hung up, then i was getting ready to buy at a different place.. then gunn called back with a lower offer.. then i talked to world car and gunn at the same time.. finally, world car got pissed off bc they wouldn't go any lower. gunn, said we'll have the paperwork ready for you. i bought from them. plus i wanted a different color, they had to get the car off the truck. it was 8 so they wouldn't be able to get my vehicle ready. they gave me a brand new one to take home until they had mine ready and said don't worry about the mileage... several days later they called me back and i gave them their vehicle back with over 1,000 miles on it... i have since sent them 2 customers..

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    oh yeah, i had done my homework BEFORE i went and knew what i would pay and what i would walk away from..

    keyword: B E F O R E

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    it was nissan.. and oh yeah, world car told me to never come back again... 5 minutes later they were calling me telling me they would lower the price.. haha..what the ever... i will never buy from them again.

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    Damn, what did you do that they told you to never come back? I'm guessing you just let them know you weren't an idiot.
    No I'm guessing he put on his magical cape and flew away with the hot looking sales associate never to return, but always able to correct others in their missteps as he continued living his infallible life.

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    I just traded in an 02 Audi A4 that had about 25 hp left in it. My ing lawnmower was faster.

    They gave me the full blue book list, I got in a nicer car for a coins more and now pseudo is happy.

    Hopefully one of you all tools won't buy my old car, because you will be pissed.

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    You know, I'm really not sure. I don't think their salespeople work on comission though. At least not the way other car salespeople do.

    They don't. My brother was working there when they first started doing that and the pay scale he got put on wasn't enough to support his family so he had to find something else.

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    Damn, what did you do that they told you to never come back? I'm guessing you just let them know you weren't an idiot.
    they got pissed bc i had done everything(all the paperwork) except hand over the check for the down payment... but then the dude from gunn called and i made them haggle... then they finally got pissed and said they'd go no lower... so, i tore up the contract and walked out.. i said, all you had to do was go lower by 200 bucks..

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    No I'm guessing he put on his magical cape and flew away with the hot looking sales associate never to return, but always able to correct others in their missteps as he continued living his infallible life.

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    Used cars from yards suck. If I'm going to buy used, I buy privately and take my mechanic mate along with me. It is so much cheaper than on a yard.

    The one time I bought used from a yard, 3 months later when I took the thing in to have CV Joints looked at the mechanic found out that the measuring points were way out and the car had been in a huge crash. Thank god i managed to sell it on for more than I paid

    the yards, I agree with Kitty.

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    they got pissed bc i had done everything(all the paperwork) except hand over the check for the down payment... but then the dude from gunn called and i made them haggle... then they finally got pissed and said they'd go no lower... so, i tore up the contract and walked out.. i said, all you had to do was go lower by 200 bucks..

    damn, all that effort for 200 bucks. impressive.

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    yeah, i bought from gunn and i paid lower than their "one simple price." they wouldn't budge, i left, went to all the dealerships.. finally someone beat them. i called them back, said i was giving them one more chance, they still said, "sorry, we don't haggle." i said, thanks, i just appreciated their time and how they handled themselves, etc.. hung up, then i was getting ready to buy at a different place.. then gunn called back with a lower offer.. then i talked to world car and gunn at the same time.. finally, world car got pissed off bc they wouldn't go any lower. gunn, said we'll have the paperwork ready for you. i bought from them. plus i wanted a different color, they had to get the car off the truck. it was 8 so they wouldn't be able to get my vehicle ready. they gave me a brand new one to take home until they had mine ready and said don't worry about the mileage... several days later they called me back and i gave them their vehicle back with over 1,000 miles on it... i have since sent them 2 customers..


    GUNN is a great place to buy, i had a similar experience to yours and bought me a Tahoe SUV from there, cheaper than anywhere else i could get one.
    I will always deal with them when in Texas and here in San Antonio.
    I am thinking about going back to get one of those new Avalanches from GUNN again.

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