Tell that to excellent teachers with huge classes. Ask them if class size was cut from 35 to 17, if they could do a better teaching to individuals.
Yet, in 2012, the United States was 27th on the list of world rankings for school educational achievement,
Not this again....
The US tests everyone...special ed...bilingual....monolingual...everyone...If we tested only the best like most countries do the US would be at the top....
you gotta look at it this way...a teacher who teaches Calculus or Trig or Physics have a ton of other jobs options...a teacher who teaches English, Science or Social Studies have some job options...a teacher who coaches or teaches an elective become school administrators...
Some schools in SA have 35 kids per class...
The Left hates science. Kids are smart because their parents are. Paying teachers more changes nothing. 40 kids per class! Yall are hilarious.
Yes.
Good schools. Usually English and Govt/History.
Run of the mill math classes as well. Upper and lower level math get more attention, ie fewer students.
Science not usually because the teachers let Amin. know it is a lab danger.
You don't have to pay individual teachers more, you just need more good teachers. Which in effect costs more $.
So your parents were stupid because you can't understand that teachers can be much more effective with fewer students in a class. With fewer classes that last longer, you don't think this makes a difference?
Its ts the same old tired right wing "we need dumb kids to dig the ditches..."
Finally you make a very important post that needs repeating as some people on this board have stupid parents according to Lohaus.
Not this again....
The US tests everyone...special ed...bilingual....monolingual...everyone...If we tested only the best like most countries do the US would be at the top....
I can walk you into an APB Physics class on Monday with 37 students. We will need visitor badges. I can walk you into classes whole buildings of classes with over 30 students in every class.
When the economy is good people pity teacher, "look, the guy that fixes the air conditioner makes more than the teachers"
When the economy is bad, " well , they have a job".
As a baby boomer (yes, that hated generation), I was in classes of 70 students per class all the way through grade school. I was small for my age and so was always seated in the front row ( with that many kids they seated students according to height). I did just fine through grade school and then went through a college-prep high school curriculum before going through to a Ph.D. in college.
HOWEVER, most of the kids in my classes were not so lucky. Don't believe me? Look who is running the state of Alabama today and tell me that they didn't need smaller class sizes in grade school.
dp. sorry. too many students in my classes!
More money will not improve teachers. That wasn't my point, never has been, and never will be.
More money will attract more talent.
The left is not waging a war on science, the right is. It is pretty easy to make that case vis a vis creationism on the part of the evangelicals driving the GOP bus.
Paying teachers more, and having more of them does affect performance.
Simple supply and demand dictates that the supply of quality teachers will go up as pay is increased. It doesn't get any more basic free market than that. Economics 101.
I would, though be interested to see on what basis you could claim "the left hates science"? link?
+1
Not this again....
The US tests everyone...special ed...bilingual....monolingual...everyone...If we tested only the best like most countries do the US would be at the top....
Not sure where we would end up, if that factor were controlled for though.
You are going to have to remove a lot of laws then, especially those that govern special education.
I would be happy to see if there were some specific things we could agree on. Do you have any specific ideas?
Maybe it will, but it will also attract more of the ones who know how to game the system.
Do you agree or disagree that the bureaucracy in the education field is a major problem?
I say it is the primary problem.
I have spoke of raising teachers pay, but only as merit pay. Not a step system. Reward the good teachers, and let the poorer ones pay raises go stagnant.
How about we just revert to what we had in the 70's, or earlier? Before these massive changes took effect when the Department of Education was formed.
The teachers are better now.
Special ed. and emphasis on the lowest common denominator are a huge problem imo.
Probably very close to the top with fewer years actually spent in that subject area.
The problem in the US, on the whole, is no one has an idea on the purpose of schools.
Surrogate family
A safe place to get fed twice
Mental hospital for young people
A place to warehouse young males so that they are watched by an adult and not robbing a house for an 8 hr period.
A place to learn the basics of R,W, and AR
A place to produce the best and brightest.
On and on...
This 'guy' knows what he's talking about.....When you set a standard which must be the same for everyone, as no child left behind does, you lower the bar for everyone....and you teach to the lowest common denominator...the first step to fixing education believe it or not, is reform no-child left behind..but the Department of Education, with all its stupid rules also needs to be used to enhance the public education system and not undermine it with Gates Foundation money...Special ed. and emphasis on the lowest common denominator are a huge problem imo.
Lotto tickets?
Public Schools Losing In Texas Lottery Payout
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/17/public-schools-losing-in-texas-lottery-payout/
The right hates specific areas of science. Evolution, and the Big Bang. The right refuses to understand that science is the most accurate method human beings use to understand the natural world. You want a class on the history of religious thought, fine. Just don't call it a science class.
That, and it hates funding science too.
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