Lakers: Lakers Getting Ready To Rape The Knicks: Gasol For Tyson and Shumpert

[Killakobe81]

LOL Superman (reeves) is the definition of ...

Wait, Im not Eminem can't cross that line ...

[DMC]

The real Superman started to die a slow death after 2000 Shaq was never better and it was downhill after ...
Howard should of claimed "hulk" not much skill, or brains just brute strength hopping around the court ...breaking rims with dunks and FT's tbh ...

lol b2b2b Finals MVP was going "downhill" after his first.

Ok. I need to find some of that Bugs Bunny music I can play when I read your posts. It's comical.

[Killakobe81]

lol b2b2b Finals MVP was going "downhill" after his first.

Ok. I need to find some of that Bugs Bunny music I can play when I read your posts. It's comical.

Too bad as a Laker fan I had to watch 82 plus the playoffs ... not just his playoff and finals runs.
He got lazy then he got fat. Was he still dominate?! Sure. But 2000 was his peak ... do you know the definition of peak? if you reach the peak of something, DMC what other choice is there but to go down hill on the way down? Are you arguing he got better?

Saying someone is going downhill from their peak is not some "slam" it's just facts. MJ was at his peak when he first retired he was till great after. Same with Ali before his ban ...

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The real Superman started to die a slow death after 2000 Shaq was never better and it was downhill after ...
Howard should of claimed "hulk" not much skill, or brains just brute strength hopping around the court ...breaking rims with dunks and FT's tbh ...

Colangelo convened that blue ribbon panel after the Philly Finals and that was the watershed moment. Nothing would be the same again for Daddy, or, any big man for that matter. Bynum never could get comfortable in the low post because "they" did not want them in there anymore.

It's what they did to Alcindor in college when they outlawed the jam. Just pettiness and vindictiveness.

[LkrFan]

I agree with that, but I'm talking TC in general. He's a big cap hit for a team that has another player making 24 mil. You need to fill the rest of your roster with 18-19 mil left in cap space. You can either sign a Carmelo Anthony and fill the rest of the roster out with guys on minimum deals, or you sign some solid, but not great guys to complement Kirby and Chandler.

It's just difficult financially. Chandler is a good player no doubt, but you can't build a contending roster with him and Kirby making 39-40 mil combined.

I'm fully aware of the Cap ramifications. Although I appreciate all he's done for us as a player, it will be hard to field a championship roster with Kobe taking up ~39% of the Cap. Prime Kobe? Acceptable. Not now though due to his age, mileage, and recovery from his Achilles rupture - especially given the position he plays.

MK is a Cap guru so if the price is right, I expect a few deals right before the trade deadline (February ?) given that we have a ton of expiring deals, including Pau's albatross of a contract. Some team strapped for cash will cave and send us talent that they cannot afford via trade. However, if nothing happens by the deadline, this will be an interesting summer. I'm not looking forward to it tbh. Despite our $5B TWC deal, the CBA has changed the game. This is precisely why I advocated tanking in the first place.

[Bill_Brasky]

spurraider laid the pipe

[Rogue]

If TC is really transfer listed, then I don't see no reason why Cuban shouldn't make a trade for him, offering the Knicks whatever they wanna take from our squad outside of Dirk. Just trade Marion/Dalembert + picks & fillers and bring big daddy Tyson back to Dallas, we RE-STACKED!!!

[HI-FI]

I'm fully aware of the Cap ramifications. Although I appreciate all he's done for us as a player, it will be hard to field a championship roster with Kobe taking up ~39% of the Cap. Prime Kobe? Acceptable. Not now though due to his age, mileage, and recovery from his Achilles rupture - especially given the position he plays.

MK is a Cap guru so if the price is right, I expect a few deals right before the trade deadline (February ?) given that we have a ton of expiring deals, including Pau's albatross of a contract. Some team strapped for cash will cave and send us talent that they cannot afford via trade. However, if nothing happens by the deadline, this will be an interesting summer. I'm not looking forward to it tbh. Despite our $5B TWC deal, the CBA has changed the game. This is precisely why I advocated tanking in the first place.

according to your stillborn ass, Lakers tanked in 2005, which is ing pathetic if true (which it's not). That means they would need to have tanked twice when Spurs have only tanked once, not even since the 9s. smh at LA even needing to tank, that's pathetic for them. How things have changed.

Least you acknowledge the new CBA is not going to make things easier for you, so props on that. Even Mitch was saying it's not going to be easier since the league wants there to be more compe ive balance, which is long overdue.

You also have to wonder about that TWC deal. Sure it's great money, but who knows what the stipulations are on it, if Lakers are fielding joke teams that can't generate great ratings, TW might have a way out of the full deal. Something to consider.

[LkrFan]

according to your stillborn ass, Lakers tanked in 2005, which is ing pathetic if true (which it's not). That means they would need to have tanked twice when Spurs have only tanked once, not even since the 9s. smh at LA even needing to tank, that's pathetic for them. How things have changed.

Least you acknowledge the new CBA is not going to make things easier for you, so props on that. Even Mitch was saying it's not going to be easier since the league wants there to be more compe ive balance, which is long overdue.

You also have to wonder about that TWC deal. Sure it's great money, but who knows what the stipulations are on it, if Lakers are fielding joke teams that can't generate great ratings, TW might have a way out of the full deal. Something to consider.

[Killakobe81]

lol b2b2b Finals MVP was going "downhill" after his first.

Ok. I need to find some of that Bugs Bunny music I can play when I read your posts. It's comical.

Too bad as a Laker fan I had to watch 82 plus the playoffs ... not just his playoff and finals runs.
He got lazy then he got fat. Was he still dominate?! Sure. But 2000 was his peak ... do you know the definition of peak? if you reach the peak of something, DMC what other choice is there but to go down hill on the way down? Are you arguing he got better?

Saying someone is going downhill from their peak is not some "slam" it's just facts. MJ was at his peak when he first retired he was till great after. Same with Ali before his ban ...you can still be great but on the downside of your peak ...

[DMC]

Too bad as a Laker fan I had to watch 82 plus the playoffs ... not just his playoff and finals runs.
He got lazy then he got fat. Was he still dominate?! Sure. But 2000 was his peak ... do you know the definition of peak? if you reach the peak of something, DMC what other choice is there but to go down hill on the way down? Are you arguing he got better?

Saying someone is going downhill from their peak is not some "slam" it's just facts. MJ was at his peak when he first retired he was till great after. Same with Ali before his ban ...you can still be great but on the downside of your peak ...

Season	Age	Tm	Lg	Pos	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS
1992-93 ★	20	ORL	NBA	C	81	81	37.9	9.0	16.1	.562	0.0	0.0	.000	9.0	16.1	.563	5.3	8.9	.592	4.2	9.6	13.9	1.9	0.7	3.5	3.8	4.0	23.4
1993-94 ★	21	ORL	NBA	C	81	81	39.8	11.8	19.6	.599	0.0	0.0	.000	11.8	19.6	.600	5.8	10.5	.554	4.7	8.5	13.2	2.4	0.9	2.9	2.7	3.5	29.3
1994-95 ★	22	ORL	NBA	C	79	79	37.0	11.8	20.2	.583	0.0	0.1	.000	11.8	20.1	.585	5.8	10.8	.533	4.2	7.3	11.4	2.7	0.9	2.4	2.6	3.3	29.3
1995-96 ★	23	ORL	NBA	C	54	52	36.0	11.0	19.1	.573	0.0	0.0	.500	10.9	19.1	.573	4.6	9.5	.487	3.4	7.7	11.0	2.9	0.6	2.1	2.9	3.6	26.6
1996-97 ★	24	LAL	NBA	C	51	51	38.1	10.8	19.4	.557	0.0	0.1	.000	10.8	19.4	.559	4.5	9.4	.484	3.8	8.7	12.5	3.1	0.9	2.9	2.9	3.5	26.2
1997-98 ★	25	LAL	NBA	C	60	57	36.3	11.2	19.1	.584	0.0	0.0		11.2	19.1	.584	6.0	11.4	.527	3.5	7.9	11.4	2.4	0.7	2.4	2.9	3.2	28.3
1998-99	26	LAL	NBA	C	49	49	34.8	10.4	18.1	.576	0.0	0.0	.000	10.4	18.0	.577	5.5	10.2	.540	3.8	6.9	10.7	2.3	0.7	1.7	2.5	3.2	26.3
1999-00 ★	27	LAL	NBA	C	79	79	40.0	12.1	21.1	.574	0.0	0.0	.000	12.1	21.1	.575	5.5	10.4	.524	4.3	9.4	13.6	3.8	0.5	3.0	2.8	3.2	29.7
2000-01 ★	28	LAL	NBA	C	74	74	39.5	11.0	19.2	.572	0.0	0.0	.000	11.0	19.2	.573	6.7	13.1	.513	3.9	8.8	12.7	3.7	0.6	2.8	2.9	3.5	28.7
2001-02 ★	29	LAL	NBA	C	67	66	36.1	10.6	18.3	.579	0.0	0.0	.000	10.6	18.3	.580	5.9	10.7	.555	3.5	7.2	10.7	3.0	0.6	2.0	2.6	3.0	27.2
2002-03 ★	30	LAL	NBA	C	67	66	37.8	10.4	18.1	.574	0.0	0.0		10.4	18.1	.574	6.7	10.8	.622	3.9	7.2	11.1	3.1	0.6	2.4	2.9	3.4	27.5
2003-04 ★	31	LAL	NBA	C	67	67	36.8	8.3	14.1	.584	0.0	0.0		8.3	14.1	.584	4.9	10.1	.490	3.7	7.8	11.5	2.9	0.5	2.5	2.9	3.4	21.5
2004-05 ★	32	MIA	NBA	C	73	73	34.1	9.0	15.0	.601	0.0	0.0		9.0	15.0	.601	4.8	10.5	.461	3.5	6.9	10.4	2.7	0.5	2.3	2.8	3.6	22.9
2005-06 ★	33	MIA	NBA	C	59	58	30.6	8.1	13.6	.600	0.0	0.0		8.1	13.6	.600	3.7	8.0	.469	2.9	6.3	9.2	1.9	0.4	1.8	2.8	3.9	20.0
2006-07 ★	34	MIA	NBA	C	40	39	28.4	7.1	12.0	.591	0.0	0.0		7.1	12.0	.591	3.1	7.4	.422	2.4	5.0	7.4	2.0	0.2	1.4	2.4	3.5	17.3
2007-08	35	TOT	NBA	C	61	61	28.7	5.4	9.1	.593	0.0	0.0		5.4	9.1	.593	2.8	5.5	.503	2.7	6.4	9.1	1.5	0.5	1.4	3.0	3.7	13.6

So where do you see this peak you mentioned? 29ppg vs 27ppg?