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    i give a C to green, an F----- to beli and i can live with everything else... Green was important tbh, had to cover for both him, manu, patty and beli at some point.. He had 0 room to shoot also.

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    I'm still butthurt about 2013

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    ^ I literally have no idea what you're talking about, tbh

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    Don't tell me you're trying to live vicariously through ElNono 's sig bet win, tbh...

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    Also, the one time Dallas actually pressed him/trapped in the back court he coughed it up by passing it out of bounds. But overall, he did well offensively because they were not trapping him.
    That trap came from a mile away, and yet none of the spurs on the wings made themselves available for an outlet. You can't expect a player to break traps / pass out of them entirely by themselves, the rest of the team has to help especially the player that was left unguarded. If manu had thrown a cross court pass to the 10th row I'd agree its 100% his fault, for this one some responsibility is shared by Leonard And whoever was on the other side for not making themselves available.

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    That's what I said. Stars come out to play in the playoffs.. not your Patty and Marco. If the Stars didn't establish the tempo, there is no way the role players will follow. That's the reason why there is always the MVP.

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    That trap came from a mile away, and yet none of the spurs on the wings made themselves available for an outlet. You can't expect a player to break traps / pass out of them entirely by themselves, the rest of the team has to help especially the player that was left unguarded. If manu had thrown a cross court pass to the 10th row I'd agree its 100% his fault, for this one some responsibility is shared by Leonard And whoever was on the other side for not making themselves available.
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    tbh, Manu's turnovers were entirely predictable after what happened in the first 3 quarters... to the point I called them before the 4th even started on the NBA forum...

    It goes like this: Bench s the bed except for Manu that keeps us in the game. Manu gets overconfident, realizes nobody else showed up to play, tries to force the issue. Turnovers ensue.

    Gino won't hide. If nobody else is showing up, he'll try to go to another gear, which he rarely has these days, being almost 37 years old. But he won't lay down and give up without a battle (even if he's battling himself sometimes).

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    Manu haters out in full force.

    The Big Three, Kawhi, and Splitter all played well. Everyone else deserves a failing grade.

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    Don't know what the 1sr half looked like, but Patty, Beli, Green, Manu & Splitter got the spurs even at the end of 3 after being down 6 or 7 w couple mins left.

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    tbh, Manu's turnovers were entirely predictable after what happened in the first 3 quarters... to the point I called them before the 4th even started on the NBA forum...

    It goes like this: Bench s the bed except for Manu that keeps us in the game. Manu gets overconfident, realizes nobody else showed up to play, tries to force the issue. Turnovers ensue.

    Gino won't hide. If nobody else is showing up, he'll try to go to another gear, which he rarely has these days, being almost 37 years old. But he won't lay down and give up without a battle (even if he's battling himself sometimes).
    I didn't think most of his turnovers were that bad except fpr that lazy pass to Timmy in the 4th. That was unacceptable.

    IIRC, Manu had zero turnovers through the first three quarters, then four in the fourth, so his timing sucked, but it is what it is. Spurs win!

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    I'm actually more concerned with Tony up to an extent... I kind of hate to post about him because peeps think I'm bashing, but it's nothing like that.

    He came out fantastic, but then disappeared. He didn't score a basket in the 2nd half until there was 3:00 left on the game (where he came through with timely baskets).

    Due to age and talent, he's our most important player right now, and I think the Spurs will need more consistency from him throughout the game instead of just stretches.

    The great news is that he looked healthy and speedy.

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    tbh, Manu's turnovers were entirely predictable after what happened in the first 3 quarters... to the point I called them before the 4th even started on the NBA forum...

    It goes like this: Bench s the bed except for Manu that keeps us in the game. Manu gets overconfident, realizes nobody else showed up to play, tries to force the issue. Turnovers ensue.

    Gino won't hide. If nobody else is showing up, he'll try to go to another gear, which he rarely has these days, being almost 37 years old. But he won't lay down and give up without a battle (even if he's battling himself sometimes).
    Well said. I think at this stage in his career Manu can be the most dangerous if he is self aware enough to realize what you described. Spurs can't win without him playing smart basketball.

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    @the usual suspects crawling out of their little holes... I get it. You guys are Manu s. I remind you once every 5 minutes, and it pisses you off so you have to vent your frustration somehow.



    jars is the worst poster because he always makes fun of Manu
    If this http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=191819 isn't being a bad poster I don't know what is..

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    Manu kept the team in the game. But damn those turnovers
    Duncan kept the team in the game, period. Manu did okay on offense though, those stupid TO's though I agree need to cease. Manu just throws some of the most mind boggling passes I have seen at times, the one with one minute left just left me and other fans (Pop TOO) in wtf mode.

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    Who came out to receive the ball when the trap came? Is there or isn't there an unguarded player on the floor when the other team traps? Manu made the right play, his pass was a little off but if Leonard had taken a step towards the ball he would have got it. the team has to react to the ball handler getting trapped regardless who has the ball, its pretty basic basketball that teammates make themselves availablein that situation

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    TIM+TONY+MANU=65 and that's all.... Keep winning playoff games like always!

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    I'm actually more concerned with Tony up to an extent... I kind of hate to post about him because peeps think I'm bashing, but it's nothing like that.

    He came out fantastic, but then disappeared. He didn't score a basket in the 2nd half until there was 3:00 left on the game (where he came through with timely baskets).

    Due to age and talent, he's our most important player right now, and I think the Spurs will need more consistency from him throughout the game instead of just stretches.

    The great news is that he looked healthy and speedy.
    That's how the Spurs play these days. Parker can't dominate through 4 quarters. He will set the tone in Q1, laay back in Q2 and Q3 and hope the rest will bring the scores close and then come back strong in Q4. I agree with you that both Heat and Thunder have the advantage here.

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    Who came out to receive the ball when the trap came? Is there or isn't there an unguarded player on the floor when the other team traps? Manu made the right play, his pass was a little off but if Leonard had taken a step towards the ball he would have got it. the team has to react to the ball handler getting trapped regardless who has the ball, its pretty basic basketball that teammates make themselves availablein that situation
    I think everybody was caught off-guard when Dallas did that, including Manu. He needs to be smarter in those situations and simply call a timeout. There was only two minutes left.

    I'm sure they'll go through the tape and review that.

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    I'm actually more concerned with Tony up to an extent... I kind of hate to post about him because peeps think I'm bashing, but it's nothing like that.

    He came out fantastic, but then disappeared. He didn't score a basket in the 2nd half until there was 3:00 left on the game (where he came through with timely baskets).

    Due to age and talent, he's our most important player right now, and I think the Spurs will need more consistency from him throughout the game instead of just stretches.

    The great news is that he looked healthy and speedy.
    That is why they brought in Beli and to a lesser extent Mills and Manu.

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    That's how the Spurs play these days. Parker can't dominate through 4 quarters. He will set the tone in Q1, laay back in Q2 and Q3 and hope the rest will bring the scores close and then come back strong in Q4. I agree with you that both Heat and Thunder have the advantage here.
    Well, I was hoping he was being rested during the RS and he would have much more impact, especially when Mills, Beli and Diaw were not having such a great game.

    Overall, I'm actually happy we won despite of that. I thought Tony actually was much more active defensively except for a small stretch in the 3rd. If we can amp up that defensive intensity, scoring won't be a problem.

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    That is why they brought in Beli and to a lesser extent Mills and Manu.
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    Oh, you mean to ease the scoring load on Tony? Sure, I would agree with that.

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    To help when TP is off a little. Now they don't have to rely on TP to do everything. Obviously, with Manu back and Mills/Beli they should be able to take the pressure off when TP sets them up on a platter. Hopefully those guys can hit some shots and take care of the ball, which they should be able to do.

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    To help when TP is off a little. Now they don't have to rely on TP to do everything. Obviously, with Manu back and Mills/Beli they should be able to take the pressure off when TP sets them up on a platter. Hopefully those guys can hit some shots and take care of the ball, which they should be able to do.
    I agree. Anything the subs can give you is huge. Mills, Beli, Diaw... those guys are key for us. Was nice to win a game without them doing much, but we'll need them in the long run.

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