(Armed?) Predators To Patrol TX Coast

[Nbadan]

I don't think many illegals will be operating SAM sites along the border or be carry stingers with them. They can be seen from the ground as has been stated. But I'm going to rest on this topic because Dan is painted deep into a corner and there is no further point of discussing this.

What deep corner? You have yet to prove that these Predators will have any effect on illegal immigration or curtailing drug mules. So far the only thing you've debated for is that these planes have the right to trample all over individual's property rights. Congratulations, that's something to be very proud of.

[SWC Bonfire]

As opposed to the individual's property rights under a socialist system?

Nbadan, you are only opposed to whatever Bush or the Republicans do. If a Democrat did the EXACT SAME THING you would praise him for focusing on the homefront and not in the illegal war in Iraq.

[smeagol]

Nbadan, you are only opposed to whatever Bush or the Republicans do. If a Democrat did the EXACT SAME THING you would praise him for focusing on the homefront and not in the illegal war in Iraq.

This is exactly what I meant when i started that other thread "Partisan".

[Nbadan]

As opposed to the individual's property rights under a socialist system?

Nbadan, you are only opposed to whatever Bush or the Republicans do. If a Democrat did the EXACT SAME THING you would praise him for focusing on the homefront and not in the illegal war in Iraq.

No, I would be against this if it was a Clinton Administration idea.

I just don't see any safeguards here. What will these Predators be used for? What kind of oversight will they have? Who will have access to the images coming from the cameras? Can and will these Predators be armed? How are these Predators more effective than the thousands of sensors already laid out along the border? Will they be working in conjunction with the border patrol and the US Coast Guard and under their operational guidelines or will they be operating independently under a separate set of standards?

It doesn't seem that any of these questions have been contemplated much less asked by our elected representatives.

[Clandestino]

what harm would they do nbadan? if you doing illegal along the border hopefully they will catch it...

some states have planes that already monitor traffic and like that.

[Clandestino]

and manny, these uavs are not only seen from the ground, but they can be heard too.

[MannyIsGod]

and manny, these uavs are not only seen from the ground, but they can be heard too.

Didn't even think about that but it makes sense. A turboprop is noisy as .

[Useruser666]

Dan thinks his property rights mean planes can't fly over his house. No wonder he will never understand jack in this forum.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Just days ago the England equivalent to Homeland Security put out new proposed guidelines that would make anyone who runs a web-site or post negative comments about the Blair government eligible for deportation.

If by negative comments you mean posting comments that all British non-Muslims should be summarily executed in order to establish a Muslim state, well I guess you have Blair busted

So far the only thing you've debated for is that these planes have the right to trample all over individual's property rights. Congratulations, that's something to be very proud of.

Property rights? What about the right of all the property owners along the border not to have illegal immigrants and drug dealers trashing their properties, breaking into their homes, stealing their possessions, etc?

Oh wait, they deserve it because they're white and racist, right?

[Clandestino]

i'd love to see what dan does when a plane flies over his house...errr bunker...

[SWC Bonfire]

No, I would be against this if it was a Clinton Administration idea.

I just don't see any safeguards here. What will these Predators be used for? What kind of oversight will they have? Who will have access to the images coming from the cameras? Can and will these Predators be armed? How are these Predators more effective than the thousands of sensors already laid out along the border? Will they be working in conjunction with the border patrol and the US Coast Guard and under their operational guidelines or will they be operating independently under a separate set of standards?

It doesn't seem that any of these questions have been contemplated much less asked by our elected representatives.

Well, Nbadan, I hope that you would ask for the same amount of oversight on funds derived by a restributive socialist system. But you know the track record of elected officials and money in the coffers. Would you trust these same people to distribute the funds fairly?