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    I'm honestly not really that interested in keeping Daye. The guy has been around the association for a minute now. Hes been underwhelming for a while.

    Maybe he puts it together if he sticks around. I'd just rather roll my dice elsewhere.

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    [QUOTE=tholdren;7448651]yep. He's got to get stronger, and give any effort on defense (thanks AAU), but I agree. He's got a much higher ceiling than Bonner, and better than any other player that we are holding on to to develop.

    I would rather let Austin walk and bring over Bertrans who I think is a better fit and player.

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    I'm honestly not really that interested in keeping Daye. The guy has been around the association for a minute now. Hes been underwhelming for a while.

    Maybe he puts it together if he sticks around. I'd just rather roll my dice elsewhere.
    But that describes Green also... We seem to do well with these journeymen...

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    Daye hasn't shown much outside of that Phily game. He's a 6'10 SF that can shoot. Not sure he can play PF consistently, which would be very helpful. The Spurs need a big body next to him that can work on the glass and rim protect.

    Not sold on Baynes either, nice athlete for his size and phyicality is nice but he fouls like crazy. He does does board really well and has some nice offensive skills but the Spurs could do better for only slighty more $.

    Have said this multiple times before that Aminu and Okafor could be nice fits off the bench. Okafor is coming off a missed year and he may be an option on the cheap on a 1 year deal. Not sure what his stock is at this point.

    a career double-double average, 1.7 blocks per game and still only 31. Maybe we could be appealing with our continued success and need for a backup center. Duncan is 37 and will be 38 by next playoff. He could average 20 minutes and have several starts through out the year.

    Aminu could fill two needs, depth on the wing behind Kawhi, & Manu (only Leonard is bigger than 6'7 among the 4 we have) and an athletic 4. He'd give us another defender and boards well.

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    I'm honestly not really that interested in keeping Daye. The guy has been around the association for a minute now. Hes been underwhelming for a while.

    Maybe he puts it together if he sticks around. I'd just rather roll my dice elsewhere.
    Same. I thank some fans are still high on that game he had against Philadelphia, in which he only had 2 field goals inside the three-point line. This guy really can't do much outside of shooting threes.

    As for the draft, I just want the best potential available. That's all you can ask for at #30, assuming the Spurs don't move up.

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    Clint Capella-C



    Damien Inglis-SG


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    Cleanothony Early-SF


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    Appreciate the adds cd!

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    these are the DX scout video's from the mentioned players on the 1st page of this thread.

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    Good work man. Keep it up.

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    PJ Haiston-SG-21 Years Old-6'5 1/4-6'9 Wingspan-8'5 Standing Reach-37 inch Max Vert
    (Previously played at UNC, Now with the NBDL Texas Legends)


    Strengths-Hairston is a very effective scorer, both inside and out … Has a sweet jump shot with deep range – good elevation and a quick release … Though mostly a spot-up shooter, he’s dangerous off the dribble and off screens in catch-and-shoot situations … Uses step-back and fade-away moves very effectively …

    Makes overly aggressive on-the-ball defenders pay with a quick first step to the basket … With a sturdy build and a 37-inch vertical, he has no trouble getting to the rim and finishing through contact … Draws a lot of fouls, and is an excellent free-throw shooter … Terrific finisher in transition … Doesn’t have a flashy handle, but is relatively good at protecting the ball the solidly built youngster has the potential to expand his game as a post-up guard … When motivated, has active hands and comes up with a fair amount of steals … Does not lack for confidence ...


    Weakness-Due to a combination of a lack of effort, a lack of awareness, and below-average speed and quickness, Hairston is a poor defender … In one-on-one situations, he is often abused by quicker players on both cuts and drives to the basket … As team defender, he is often in the wrong place at the wrong time – he doesn’t always rotate, and when he does, he has poor recovery speed. Also, at times, he inexplicably steps away from the action, as if he is playing with five fouls or playing for the Washington Generals … Appears undisciplined, lackadaisical – doesn’t make a lot of hustle plays, stands around a lot on offense.

    Overall-Assuming that he has learned from his mistakes, Hairston should at least enjoy an NBA career as a scorer/3-point specialist off the bench ... If he improves his overall effort and play on the defensive end, his prospects would be much brighter, though it is very doubtful that he would ever become an All-Star-level player due to his average athletic ability … A borderline first-round selection who will likely fall into the second due to his past indiscretions …

    NBA Draft. Net-31st
    NBA Draft Xpress-22nd
    CBS Sports-22nd, 23rd, 24th


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    But that describes Green also... We seem to do well with these journeymen...
    Green is pretty athletic, even by NBA standards, and can defend 3 position. Daye can't, and likely never will be able to defend any position. He's a stick, AND slow and unathletic.

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    PJ Haiston-SG-21 Years Old-6'5 1/4-6'9 Wingspan-8'5 Standing Reach-37 inch Max Vert
    (Previously played at UNC, Now with the NBDL Texas Legends)


    Strengths-Hairston is a very effective scorer, both inside and out … Has a sweet jump shot with deep range – good elevation and a quick release … Though mostly a spot-up shooter, he’s dangerous off the dribble and off screens in catch-and-shoot situations … Uses step-back and fade-away moves very effectively …

    Makes overly aggressive on-the-ball defenders pay with a quick first step to the basket … With a sturdy build and a 37-inch vertical, he has no trouble getting to the rim and finishing through contact … Draws a lot of fouls, and is an excellent free-throw shooter … Terrific finisher in transition … Doesn’t have a flashy handle, but is relatively good at protecting the ball the solidly built youngster has the potential to expand his game as a post-up guard … When motivated, has active hands and comes up with a fair amount of steals … Does not lack for confidence ...


    Weakness-Due to a combination of a lack of effort, a lack of awareness, and below-average speed and quickness, Hairston is a poor defender … In one-on-one situations, he is often abused by quicker players on both cuts and drives to the basket … As team defender, he is often in the wrong place at the wrong time – he doesn’t always rotate, and when he does, he has poor recovery speed. Also, at times, he inexplicably steps away from the action, as if he is playing with five fouls or playing for the Washington Generals … Appears undisciplined, lackadaisical – doesn’t make a lot of hustle plays, stands around a lot on offense.

    Overall-Assuming that he has learned from his mistakes, Hairston should at least enjoy an NBA career as a scorer/3-point specialist off the bench ... If he improves his overall effort and play on the defensive end, his prospects would be much brighter, though it is very doubtful that he would ever become an All-Star-level player due to his average athletic ability … A borderline first-round selection who will likely fall into the second due to his past indiscretions …

    NBA Draft. Net-31st
    NBA Draft Xpress-22nd
    CBS Sports-22nd, 23rd, 24th

    I don't see any path to this. Pop is tight with Roy Williams, and ol' Roy kicked this ing kid off his team.

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    I don't see any path to this. Pop is tight with Roy Williams, and ol' Roy kicked this ing kid off his team.
    To be fair, the AD kicked Hairston off. Williams supposedly fought the decision and has been putting in a good word for Hairston this whole time. I think Roy would encourage Pop to give PJ a chance if the Spurs in the market for a two-guard at 30.

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    But that describes Green also... We seem to do well with these journeymen...
    Green joined the Spurs during his second season in the league and became a starter by his third (second with the Spurs). Daye is not in the same position at all. He's much closer to Ayres than he is to Green. But at least Jeff has a guaranteed contract.

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    But that describes Green also... We seem to do well with these journeymen...
    Not really. Green had one season in an organization that self-destructed with Lebron's departure.

    Daye has been around for five seasons and hes still pretty "eh".

    I'm not totally taking a on Daye by any means. But comparing him to Green is a function of looking for a comparison that really isn't there.

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    I'd be pleased if TJ Warren's weirdness drops him to us, as optimistic as that may be.

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    7'1 C Issiah Austin (i listed above), who was in projected to be taken by the Spurs with the 60th pick, basketball career is over

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...al-nba-career? utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaig n=editorial&hpt=hp_t2

    has some type of syndrome.

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    Cory Joseph, Aron Baynes, Jeff Ayers, Matt Bonner, and Austin Daye are 5 players that the spurs do not need. At least 1 of them won't be on the team next year--opening up a roster spot or two for someone in the draft or overseas.

    My bet is on Davis Bertans and Marcus Denmon coming over this year.

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    "
    The general consensus among some NBA personnel is that the Bucks, who are obviously in a rebuilding mode, could obtain a late-first round pick for the 27-year-old Ilyasova in what is regarded as one of the most deep and talented draft in years."

    http://journaltimes.com/sports/bucks...a4bcf887a.html


    The article mentions Phoenix, OKC and Houston as possible trade partners.

    The Spurs could make a play for him, though their pick is obviously lower than what Phoenix and OKC could offer (PHX has 3 picks, including the 26th and OKC has the 21st and 29th)

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    Michael Scotto: Sources:San Antonio Spurs will bring in Walter Tavares for a workout today. Tavares (7'3") has become a rising center prospect. #NBADraft "

    from hoopshype.

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    Marcus Denmon is worse than any player you just listed. He's 6'3, a terrible shooter, and an even worse PASSER for someone of his height... Useless.

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    To have a chance next year we have to keep everyone excepts Bonner who should be replaced by Bertrans.

    I like the thought of getting Okafor who I think could save his career by playing with us and getting a ring in the process.

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    To have a chance next year we have to keep everyone excepts Bonner who should be replaced by Bertrans.

    I like the thought of getting Okafor who I think could save his career by playing with us and getting a ring in the process.
    Why could they afford to let go of Bonner when he was more important than Tiago against the most dangerous team they faced?

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    Dump James and Daye. Re-sign everyone else. That leaves us two roster spots.

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