NBA: Still waiting for posters to name me 10 players better than Kevin Love in the league,

[Clipper Nation]

yeah I wanted to see how far along it would go

but at you guys thinking it actually means something.


oh yeah

raiders
liberal

Frizzle caught red-handed and deflecting

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Blake Griffin's defensive rating = 103.3
Tony Allen's defensive rating = 103.1

det 0.2 difference

Anthony Davis = 104.3

because guarding best players on the teams consistently isn't going to deflate his stats

implying Griffin is a better defender

[spurraider21]

yeah I wanted to see how far along it would go

but at you guys thinking it actually means something. taking the time to take two screenshots and post them on ST to "prove I edited a post". Good one CN


oh yeah

raiders
liberal

still calls me a liberal
doesn't understand politics
majored in political science

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Frizzle caught red-handed and deflecting

How long did it take for you to take those screenshots? Shouldn't you be out getting laid?

[djohn2oo8]

One of the most useless post in this thread. The premise was to value a player which isn't exclusive to offensive production. I like how you keep bringing up offense when it was brought to your attention, George is a two way player that particularly values defense...


Harden stans are justifying his monumental collapse in the playoffs for 3 straight years

You said Harden is slightly better than George on offense when I just posted stats that obliterated your argument. Subject is settled.

[spurraider21]

because guarding best players on the teams consistently isn't going to deflate his stats

implying Griffin is a better defender

i didnt imply griffin is a better defender. i'm showing how ing flawed it is to look at Defensive Rating. my man-crush on anthony davis is do ented here

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

still calls me a liberal
doesn't understand politics
majored in political science

someone getting rejected from a liberal school saying I don't understand politics despite majoring in it.
said 'nah' to law school cause i'll make more being a physical therapist at a top college

[spurraider21]

How long did it take for you to take those screenshots? Shouldn't you be out getting laid?

on a PC its 1 button on the keyboard to take a screenshot, on a mac its 3 buttons. its not rocket science...

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

on a PC its 1 button on the keyboard to take a screenshot, on a mac its 3 buttons. its not rocket science...

Would you take the time to do all of that? Not to mention uploading it, etc, etc

[Clipper Nation]

How long did it take for you to take those screenshots? Shouldn't you be out getting laid?

It took me about 2 seconds each.... shouldn't you be feeding your cats?

[Cry Havoc]

Blake Griffin's defensive rating = 103.3
Tony Allen's defensive rating = 103.1

det 0.2 difference

Anthony Davis = 104.3

Davis plays on a TY team son, all the way around, hence why I qualified that Griffin is on a GOOD defensive team, and an elite Western Conference team. Why would you compare the two? Swap them and Blake's DR goes through the roof while Davis drops under 100.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It took me about 2 seconds each.... shouldn't you be feeding your cats?

Already did, and maaaan was your sister great

[spurraider21]

someone getting rejected from a liberal school saying I don't understand politics despite majoring in it.
said 'nah' to law school cause i'll make more being a physical therapist at a top college

said nah to law school because you were terrified of the LSAT, let alone the bar.
claims to understand politics yet still comes to the conclusion that i'm liberal
poly sci to physical therapy

[Cry Havoc]

You said Harden is slightly better than George on offense when I just posted stats that obliterated your argument. Subject is settled.

Actually you took one player being better on offense to mean he's better overall. You're right, do ented and settled.

[Clipper Nation]

Already did, and maaaan was your sister great

I don't have a sister, tbh.... your girlfriend has a sister, though, and you're her

[spurraider21]

Would you take the time to do all of that? Not to mention uploading it, etc, etc

"all that"? PC has a print screen button... its command+shift+3 on a mac. if you think that's a lot of work i can see why you got scared of law school

[spurraider21]

Davis plays on a TY team son, all the way around, hence why I qualified that Griffin is on a GOOD defensive team, and an elite Western Conference team. Why would you compare the two? Swap them and Blake's DR goes through the roof while Davis drops under 100.

what about tony allen? he's an elite defender on an elite defensive team in the western conference playoffs

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

"all that"? PC has a print screen button... its command+shift+3 on a mac. if you think that's a lot of work i can see why you got scared of law school

Confirmed: You care about how you are perceived and how others are on a community board. Congratulations.

Keep enjoying that bachelors degree, though.

[spurraider21]

Confirmed: You care about how you are perceived and how others are on a community board. Congratulations.

Keep enjoying that bachelors degree, though.

Posts about how "he'll make more money going to a top college"

Says that i'm the one the cares about how i'm perceived.

k

[Cry Havoc]

what about tony allen? he's an elite defender on an elite defensive team in the western conference playoffs

He's also a guard and playing against the elite SGs/SFs of the conference night in night out. I'm sure he gives up a ton of points because he has to shoulder that load.

[spurraider21]

He's also a guard and playing against the elite SGs/SFs of the conference night in night out. I'm sure he gives up a ton of points because he has to shoulder that load.

i'm not going to call Griffin an elite defender... he just lacks natural length. height is one thing, but he doesn't have really long arms. he's not great, but he's come a long way and is a solid defensive player. saying "he is lost on D... look at his Defensive Rating!!!" is just flat out wrong.

[rogues]

i'm not going to call Griffin an elite defender... he just lacks natural length. height is one thing, but he doesn't have really long arms. he's not great, but he's come a long way and is a solid defensive player. saying "he is lost on D... look at his Defensive Rating!!!" is just flat out wrong.

I'm a believer of advanced stats as they are useful in many discussions..but they do have their flaws..Griffin is a vastly improved defender..he was practically nonexistent on that end in college..his basketball IQ on that end has grown..

[StrengthAndHonor]

With all the winshares and other metrics Rockets fans likes to bring up, it was George who stepped up and played better in the playoffs, that includes win shares, EFG%, TS% and PER.


As an unbiased observer, I'd take George in a heartbeat. I know Curry gets a lot of flak here, but I'd also take him over Harden.

[StrengthAndHonor]

i'm not going to call Griffin an elite defender... he just lacks natural length. height is one thing, but he doesn't have really long arms. he's not great, but he's come a long way and is a solid defensive player. saying "he is lost on D... look at his Defensive Rating!!!" is just flat out wrong.

True, Blake seems to grate on everyone’s nerves so they take a shot at him every chance they get. Defensvely, he tries hard, which is a step in the right direction. Bigger guys can still give him issues and like you said, genetics have ensured he will never be a scary rim protector who deters drivers


He has improved and his quickness and mobility is essential in Doc's strongside overload scheme. He'll only get better.

[Cry Havoc]

i'm not going to call Griffin an elite defender... he just lacks natural length. height is one thing, but he doesn't have really long arms. he's not great, but he's come a long way and is a solid defensive player. saying "he is lost on D... look at his Defensive Rating!!!" is just flat out wrong.

I agree actually, Griffin has become a lot better on defense, but that's not exactly saying a lot.