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I believe in Evolution.
God created the Big Bang.
Someone once said What If the earth was round. Someone once said What If there are other planets."What if's" aren't reality. So what do they really matter?
Bible says humans were made to God's image.
Sorry if I don't care "what if" a horse worshiped.
Perhaps you should start asking yourself What If.
So you admit selection experiments yield results which comply with evolution, but you dont think this happens? I don't understand what you mean here.Not at all. The fact that it can happen, doesn't lead me to believe it is how it happened.
Science doesn't prove anything, it disproves things and supports things. If you didn't realize this until now, realize it now. Science experiments are done mostly to disprove theories, not to prove them. Because theories are just that, Theories. The very word's definition provides you all you need to know of its nature. Noone ever mentioned in this thread "the LAW of evolution"And what would I call it?
Things which can be made possible. Just not a proof as to that happening before we came along.
You say things which can be made possible...
so you're saying if a tribe of 100 Astrolophiticus split into two....and they went to two seperate environments....and one environment had mostly plants as food source, and the other mostly animals
that if these two tribes stayed seperate, they would not yeild different types of humanoids after 1000's of years?
if we can acheive a human population of 100% red heads after just 5-6 generations, then what IS possible after 1000's of years?
Human populations have stayed geographically and genetically isolated from each other for thousands and thousands of years...
how do you account for different skin types? Why is it that blacks from Africa have Ribisomal RNA that is far more heterogenic than people from Europe?
My beliefs provide a decent explanation for this.
What is your position on this?
I believe in Evolution.
God created the Big Bang.
An ants functions are much more limited than a Dogs, Ants function in a unit where they are given orders and have to carry them out. Birds and Tigers are different species. Unlike humans, parrots do not have vocal cords. Instead, they learn to control the movement of the muscles in the throat to direct the airflow in such a way as to reproduce certain tones and sounds—sometimes even human sounds.Why can dogs do a lot more things than ants can? Why can birds fly and not tigers? Why can parrots repeat speech and not rabbits?
There is no question that some parrots show signs of intelligence. Yet, it is important to understand that these mimicking birds do not really understand what they are saying. Parrots just repeat sounds that they have been taught. Talking to a parrot is basically like talking to a tape player or a Furby doll. (And even then, you never know if a parrot will talk back.) The fact is, even though some birds can be "trained" to do certain things, they cannot reason or have real, human-like conversations. Rabbits do not or have the capability to use the muscles inside the mouth like Parrots do. Rabbits are more into reproducing, eating and caring for they're offspring.
no doubt...mimicry is a very primitive form of 'intelligence'
it in no way disproves the fact that the closer animals are to humans the 'more intelligent' they are
I'd say a dolphin is more intelligent than a chimp but, a chimp is way more related to us than dolphin is.
You mean the same ones who should've looked in the Bible to know that before they even asked what if? In it it clearly talked of the earth being round, and there being other celestial bodies.
I don't really understand what exactly it is you want me to answer.So you admit selection experiments yield results which comply with evolution, but you dont think this happens? I don't understand what you mean here.
That because these experiments aren't false, that evolution is what made us, and not God, or that God made us, but evolution exists?
Well clearly, the environment humans live in makes them adapt differently, look differently.Science doesn't prove anything, it disproves things and supports things. If you didn't realize this until now, realize it now. Science experiments are done mostly to disprove theories, not to prove them. Because theories are just that, Theories. The very word's definition provides you all you need to know of its nature. Noone ever mentioned in this thread "the LAW of evolution"
You say things which can be made possible...
so you're saying if a tribe of 100 Astrolophiticus split into two....and they went to two seperate environments....and one environment had mostly plants as food source, and the other mostly animals
that if these two tribes stayed seperate, they would not yeild different types of humanoids after 1000's of years?
if we can acheive a human population of 100% red heads after just 5-6 generations, then what IS possible after 1000's of years?
Human populations have stayed geographically and genetically isolated from each other for thousands and thousands of years...
how do you account for different skin types? Why is it that blacks from Africa have Ribisomal RNA that is far more heterogenic than people from Europe?
My beliefs provide a decent explanation for this.
What is your position on this?
A man and a woman with blue eyes make babies with blue eyes. A couple with brown eyes make brown-eyed babies. Same goes with skin tones, hair color, etc.
Yeah. It's completely evident. There's no denying it.
Do I think this is a result of evolution? No. We are all the same in regards to the number of bones in our bodies, same number of fingers, same anatomical structure. We all have hair. We all walk with 2 feet. We always have and we always will. We all have different DNA, yes. That's what makes us different in regards to our exterior. Nothing else.
on the plus side, they're still mammals, and closer to humans than the average person may think
Ever heard of Galileo? He was charged with treason on saying things like that by the Church and was forced to take back what he said or he'd face exile.You mean the same ones who should've looked in the Bible to know that before they even asked what if? In it it clearly talked of the earth being round, and there being other celestial bodies.
The old testament also says that God will smite down with heavenly fire any of those who don't take his word seriously
have you ever sinned in your life?
if you have...have u ever been smited with fire from the heavens?
I wanted you to explain to me the results of selection (if evolution is a car, selection is the engine) experiments. Do you agree that the process of selection is possible/does exist?I don't really understand what exactly it is you want me to answer.
That because these experiments aren't false, that evolution is what made us, and not God, or that God made us, but evolution exists?
Ok, so you do agree with selection. Thats all i wanted to know. So you do agree that if Robert Swift had a child with Peggy Bundy that they'd most likely have a red-head child.
Well clearly, the environment humans live in makes them adapt differently, look differently.
A man and a woman with blue eyes make babies with blue eyes. A couple with brown eyes make brown-eyed babies. Same goes with skin tones, hair color, etc.
Yeah. It's completely evident. There's no denying it.
Do I think this is a result of evolution? No. We are all the same in regards to the number of bones in our bodies, same number of fingers, same anatomical structure. We all have hair. We all walk with 2 feet. We always have and we always will. We all have different DNA, yes. That's what makes us different in regards to our exterior. Nothing else.
I agree with everything you say here....but you just said you agreed that selection does exist and is a force amongst our lives...but then went back to how you think this has nothing to do with evolution
the fact is...it DOES! The founder of evolution's theory was called "the theory of natural selection"
I think Robert Swift is Luke Ridnours son
Humans do not need to do any evolving........We can manipulate our surroundings with tools whether we be a midget or Shaq. Why do you think they're more giraffes with longer necks then they are with shorter ones? Well because of natural selection the ones with the taller necks were able to eat the off the tree's and the ones that weren't able to died out making that the dominant gene. Ever notice more people have dark hair than blonde, more brown pupils than blue etc... Because the dominant genes are the ones carryed out through reproduction.Do I think this is a result of evolution? No. We are all the same in regards to the number of bones in our bodies, same number of fingers, same anatomical structure. We all have hair. We all walk with 2 feet. We always have and we always will. We all have different DNA, yes. That's what makes us different in regards to our exterior. Nothing else
Everyone sins. It has to do with us not being perfect.
Do I believe God's patience has a limit? Ofcourse.
Do I believe he will take action? Yep.
But for you to understand it better, it takes reading and comprehending what the Bible means.
Red-head's DNA + Red-head's DNA = Red-head DNAOk, so you do agree with selection. Thats all i wanted to know. So you do agree that if Robert Swift had a child with Peggy Bundy that they'd most likely have a red-head child.
Yeah...
Uh-huh... Sorry, I didn't study evolution in high school... if selection means a red-head choosing a red-head to have his babies, will create a red-head, then yes. It's only logical.but you just said you agreed that selection does exist and is a force amongst our lives...but then went back to how you think this has nothing to do with evolution
the fact is...it DOES! The founder of evolution's theory was called "the theory of natural selection"
It doesn't change their anatomical structure, though. Never will humans evolve into some sort of monsters or a 20 foot whatever.
Humans will never need to evolve to adapt to there enviorment. We don't need excessive hair for those who live in the cold, we can build homes and shelter with heaters etc. We don't need long arms/big bodies to grab food from trees we can build machines/use tools to do that for us.......It doesn't change their anatomical structure, though. Never will humans evolve into some sort of monster or 20 foot whatever.
^Agreed.
They're are things called allelles(sp). Red hair is obviously not a common trait. It's not dominante so when scientists use a Mendel Chart they would give red hair a recessive symbol.Red-head's DNA + Red-head's DNA = Red-head DNA
Yeah...
yeah theres no doubt that humans are the most advanced species
but it doesn't mean we're it, we're the final product
how do you know God didn't intend the human to be very important in his sytem, but servant to a higher being that is still yet to come into existence?
we dont, i dont
but its possible...
The more humans rely on machines the sooner we'll evolve into big fat balls of nothing but human flesh.
That's what you think.
But based on my beliefs, which are based largely on the bible, it leads me to believe very strongly and confidently that it's not happening. It's just not stated there.
they probably could but their paws might make it a little hard for us to read what they're saying. Dogs are able to communicate in lots of other ways. They are excellent at reading body language and they can learn up to 50 words. They are also very emotional animals, they like some people, dislike others, they feel jealousy, anger, guilt, fear, love, sadness and they mourn when an owner or companion dog dies. They develop social hierarchy in groups, set up boundaries and can communicate with each other. In fact, most animals are capable of these things. It is pure idiocy to think of animals as "machines". And it is beyond me why anyone would ponder the purpose of every life form based on how that life form serves humans. We don't eat or play with tigers and leopards Top Cherry. At least I don't. All animals are not suitable for us to eat, plenty of them are not cuddly playthings, and still more are just too dangerous for humans to be around. The idea that they're all here for human pleasure is sheer lunacy.
That's all I really have to say on this matter. Any serious person who doesn't believe in evolution may as well proclaim their life long membership in the Flat Earth Society.
i just dont understand how you can say that after you've agreed that selection exists
they probably could but their paws might make it a little hard for us to read what they're saying.
Yeah? It's not logical for us to believe tigers weren't the furocious creatures they are today? That they didn't see humans as a threat before? The fact that they became such defendants of their territory doesn't mean they once weren't.And it is beyond me why anyone would ponder the purpose of every life form based on how that life form serves humans. We don't eat or play with tigers and leopards Top Cherry. At least I don't. All animals are not suitable for us to eat, plenty of them are not cuddly playthings, and still more are just too dangerous for humans to be around. The idea that they're all here for human pleasure is sheer lunacy.
We all stare in wonder whenever we see or read about a new discovery of species, of a new reason for this, a new reason for that, a new purpose to this and that. We never really stop learning about animals, plants, insects, the environment.
Tell me how that isn't human pleasure.
Congratulations. You are officially the first person to try to be offensive of other people's beliefs.That's all I really have to say on this matter. Any serious person who doesn't believe in evolution may as well proclaim their life long membership in the Flat Earth Society.
How the do you know if I'm not laughing right now at all the things I'm reading? Hmm?
You don't see me telling them how much I find this to be "ridiculous".
What Can't_Be_Faded is trying to say is
If something were to happen to a group of humans and some die and some survive why does that happen? Because of natural selection the ones that don't die have the selected genes to survive.
I'd have to study evolution before I go on in this thread.
I'm done.
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This is getting old it's fun debating but, theres no point.
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