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    Parker isn't the only one to blame for the choke jobs. Manu's been responsible for more choke jobs in the playoffs than any player on the team. TP isn't perfect, but he's also been clutch as ever since he became the guy. Has bailed out some turnover/stupid shot prone SG coming off the bench...

    -2013 Warriors Game 1: led The Comeback. Scoring and playmaking for Green, Leonard, and Diaw
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    -2013 Finals Game 6: Put spurs up five with 28sec left
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    when did parker put the spurs up 5 in game 6? he put them up 2. chill...

    keep in mind in games 6 and 7 he combined for 9-35 from the field

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    when did parker put the spurs up 5 in game 6? he put them up 2. chill...

    keep in mind in games 6 and 7 he combined for 9-35 from the field
    That's Kobe-esque

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    Pretty funny being blamed because he has won more playoff games. All those people with wonderful stats and five bucks will get you a cup of coffee at Starbucks. It's not like fencing, it's a team sport about winning. TP is looking pretty damn good.

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    when did parker put the spurs up 5 in game 6? he put them up 2. chill...

    keep in mind in games 6 and 7 he combined for 9-35 from the field
    He needed more than 35 FGA to get going hot. That was on Pop. Should have just let him keep the ball and go to work

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    when did parker put the spurs up 5 in game 6? he put them up 2. chill...

    keep in mind in games 6 and 7 he combined for 9-35 from the field
    He scored a three pointer and then a two pointer (the last Spurs points) in game six, at which point we were up 5 with 28 seconds left, before Miami scored three. Left us up two.

    Keep in mind that he had a grade two hamstring strain in games 5, 6 and 7.

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    Let's organize that same group of players by playoff assists per game:

    12.3 - Magic
    10.1 - Stockon
    8.8 - Nash
    8.0 - Kidd
    5.2 - Parker

    Parker's not in the same tier as those guy as a playmaker.



    Parker's a good scorer in the regular season but he's terribly inefficient in the playoffs. A career .518 TS% in the post-season. Compare that to other great PGs past and present:

    .595 - Magic
    .568 - Stockton
    .583 - Nash
    .578 - Billups
    .575 - Paul

    2004, 2006, 2013 were all winnable years for the Spurs but Parker's inefficient series against the '04 Lakers, '06 Mavs, and '13 Heat probably cost the Spurs a few les.
    Johnny, please believe me, I don't try to suggest that Parker is anywhere nearly as talented as the guards you list as having better career TS%. I have said repeatedly that Parker's talent level is not as good as several of his teammates with respect to court vision, passing ability and bball i.q. In terms of ball handling, passing and court vision, he is at least third behind Manu and Boris. It is precisely because I believe he is not as talented as some of his OWN teammates (not to mention the all-time stars you listed) that he should be given credit for what he has done for this team. He has had to put in the work to become what Pop wanted him to become. And he has done that work. He hears it from Pop when he doesn't attempt enough baskets, and he hears it from Pop when he attempts too many.

    Given all of that, what Parker has accomplished is all the more impressive, imo. If you had your choice of a point guard who was ALMOST as good year in and year out as Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Steve Nash, etc., on a team that also sports (and pays) Tim Duncan and Many Ginobili, wouldn't YOU be thrilled to do that?

    That is what I don't understand. Why people blame a talented but by far less talented guy who plays his heart out virtually every night for CHOKING, when his stats are admittedly not better than, but comparable to some of the greatest players of all time at his position?!! And, regarding Paul - Tony has beat Paul straight up in virtually every game they play. And Paul has not yet gotten his team to the championships. Parker has run Pop's offense better than any other guard we have ever had, and when he is gone we will miss him immensely. Could Chis Paul have run Pop's offense better than Tony? I don't know. But WOULD Paul have been willing to take less money in a smaller market and play behind the best PF in history, always being at least second fiddle if not third? I'm not sure about that.

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    He scored a three pointer and then a two pointer (the last Spurs points) in game six, at which point we were up 5 with 28 seconds left, before Miami scored three. Left us up two.

    Keep in mind that he had a grade two hamstring strain in games 5, 6 and 7.
    3 pointer tied the game and two pointer put us up two

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    I don't challenge your Ortg stats. But some additional ones might be relevant:

    Parker is fifth among all point guards in NBA history in post season assists.

    The four point guards in NBA history with more post season assists than Parker are:

    Magic Johnson
    John Stockton
    Jason Kidd
    Nash

    Added to being 5th in post season assists, he is also the leading scorer among ALL pgs in the NBA in post season history.

    Not bad company for a 'post season choker'.

    The stats you are using to support your assertion are simply less useful than the ones cited by Johnny Ringo. No one looks at absolute numbers anymore because they distort relative impact.

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    The stats you are using to support your assertion are simply less useful than the ones cited by Johnny Ringo. No one looks at absolute numbers anymore because they distort relative impact.
    My only assertion, if you read it closely, was that some additional stats might be relevant. I didn't claim that they were more or less 'useful'. Interesting that the same folks who don't want to note relevant stats for some players don't mind noting that Tim has as many rings as Kobe, or that he has more rebounds in the PO than anyone else in NBA history, or any other number of 'less useful' stats. Or that Kawhi was the second-youngest Finals MVP in NBA playoff history.

    This is, admittedly, all in the "wasted words" category, so I am going to stop wasting mine in this thread, promise.

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    My only assertion, if you read it closely, was that some additional stats might be relevant. I didn't claim that they were more or less 'useful'. Interesting that the same folks who don't want to note relevant stats for some players don't mind noting that Tim has as many rings as Kobe, or that he has more rebounds in the PO than anyone else in NBA history, or any other number of 'less useful' stats. Or that Kawhi was the second-youngest Finals MVP in NBA playoff history.

    This is, admittedly, all in the "wasted words" category, so I am going to stop wasting mine in this thread, promise.

    Honestly, I don't care. I'm a fan of all of the Spurs' players - an unusual position on this forum.

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    Just face it.

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    Parker the legend returns to be the head of the snake.

    Bow down you Kawhi and Manu

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    The hate on Tony on this board is unbelievable, tbh... as a person that has always supported Parker, I find this kind of chatter offensive and unnecessary. He's one of our guys, not the enemy...
    QFT.

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    The stats you are using to support your assertion are simply less useful than the ones cited by Johnny Ringo. No one looks at absolute numbers anymore because they distort relative impact.
    And you think looking only at TS% is better? That Dwight Howard is more efficient than DRob? David Lee more than Duncan?

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