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    There were some reported findings some considered strange, however. Rats that ate the higher percentages of genetically modified corn did not get as sick as those who were eating the lower percentages.

    Critics also have taken issue with the study's methodology. Specifically the researchers' choice of rats are known for their propensity to develop mammary tumors if their diet is not controlled. Also, the control group of just 20 mice is rather small and makes it hard to draw conclusions from comparisons.

    Some experts pointed out to the BBC that the pictures of the rats with the tumors were misleading.

    "The most evocative part of the paper is those pictures of tumorigenesis," said Maurice Moloney, a research biologist at Rothamsted Research in Harpenden, England, said to the BBC.

    He said the authors mislead readers to believe that these tumors never happen in control groups.

    "I'd be surprised if it didn't, but that ought to be explicitly demonstrated, and if there was a control that ended up showing similar kinds of tumorigenesis then a picture of that rat should be shown as well, just so we can see if there are any qualitative differences between them," Moloney said.

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    There were some reported findings some considered strange, however. Rats that ate the higher percentages of genetically modified corn did not get as sick as those who were eating the lower percentages.

    Critics also have taken issue with the study's methodology. Specifically the researchers' choice of rats are known for their propensity to develop mammary tumors if their diet is not controlled. Also, the control group of just 20 mice is rather small and makes it hard to draw conclusions from comparisons.

    Some experts pointed out to the BBC that the pictures of the rats with the tumors were misleading.

    "The most evocative part of the paper is those pictures of tumorigenesis," said Maurice Moloney, a research biologist at Rothamsted Research in Harpenden, England, said to the BBC.

    He said the authors mislead readers to believe that these tumors never happen in control groups.

    "I'd be surprised if it didn't, but that ought to be explicitly demonstrated, and if there was a control that ended up showing similar kinds of tumorigenesis then a picture of that rat should be shown as well, just so we can see if there are any qualitative differences between them," Moloney said.
    That's why I was telling Cry in the Peterson thread that you can't just take the media's interpretation of articles. If you know anything about scientific research, it becomes so much easier to evaluate studies critically. But people would rather blindly follow them or blindly reject them.

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    Missed that...I should have known since God is by his side.

    Jesus took the wheel

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    laugh at the idea of intelligent design? No intelligence huh? Well create life then. Create a living breathing human that can feel and reason. (without using anything living) I mean, no intelligence right? Shouldn't be too hard imo.
    Because intelligent design isn't scientific. It takes very little education on the topic to realize how intellectually bankrupt ID as a working theory is.

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    No, and you're completely missing the point. I said I personally believe that the time is near. Am I more qualified? Maybe, maybe not. But that's where it ends. You are simply going off topic for your own amusement.
    "the end is near" has been the theme to keepgullible in the church since its inception, and such things are actually in the bible, if memory serves.



    If you had been around paying attention to the news in the run up to the year 2000, you might view such beliefs a bit differently.

    I have no beef with it generally up to the point where this false belief that the end is near makes people do stupid . You might not be selling all your earthly goods and living in a commune waiting for the zombie jesus to come lift you up to the sky, but I would be willing to bet that this powerful belief makes you do at least something irrational.

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    "the end is near" has been the theme to keepgullible in the church since its inception, and such things are actually in the bible, if memory serves.



    If you had been around paying attention to the news in the run up to the year 2000, you might view such beliefs a bit differently.

    I have no beef with it generally up to the point where this false belief that the end is near makes people do stupid . You might not be selling all your earthly goods and living in a commune waiting for the zombie jesus to come lift you up to the sky, but I would be willing to bet that this powerful belief makes you do at least something irrational.
    I was 8 in 2000.

    And no, nothing irrational.

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    Jesus took the wheel
    Its a love affair, Jesus and my hot rod.

    So there was only one thing that I could do, was ding a ding, dang my dang a long ling long.

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    Scientist have already been able to form protobionts (precursors to life) by taking elements and recreating earth's early environmental conditions. If we had time to follow their evolution over a billion years, you might get to see how this sort of thing works.
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