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    Put Brazil from the '70s against today's Getafe and Getafe probably wins easy. Now give 70's Brazil today's physical and tactical preparation and they are the ones that win easy.

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    Yet no futuristic athletic man can resist a bullet in the head, or have a 6 foot vertical leap, or make a homerun with a metal bat and a cannonball.
    Peds gives you a boost, and makes you look better because all that fake ripped muscle is full of water but won´t make you a super human with ultra-advanced genetics, if they are so advanced these genetic freaks should have at least 3 foot schlongs too .

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    You're dumb if you think otherwise.

    Folks back then played at a stupidly slow pace, teams played with 4 or 5 forwards and they would never track back. You don't understand this game if you think any average team from today with current physical and tactical preparation doesn't win is said scenario.

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    omg


    The thought of Mehdi Lacen and Co taking on Pelé and Tostao is just

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    Exactly -

    Could he be slightly better with today's science? It's possible. It wouldn't allow him to play more minutes, it's doubtful it'd make him any stronger, and it's doubtful he'd jump any higher, so it's idiotic to get hung up on it. My point is we don't need re ed conjecture about what different training could possibly do in order to talk about Wilt. Actual Wilt, not hypothetical Wilt with today's training, would dominate in 2014.

    His peak would likely be longer.

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    omg


    The thought of Mehdi Lacen and Co taking on Pelé and Tostao is just
    How does it feel to be so mistaken?

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    How does it feel to be so mistaken?
    Only you can answer that

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    Put Brazil from the '70s against today's Getafe and Getafe probably wins easy. Now give 70's Brazil today's physical and tactical preparation and they are the ones that win easy.

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    like the 70s Brazil need all that to beat Getafe

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    Put Brazil from the '70s against today's Getafe and Getafe probably wins easy. Now give 70's Brazil today's physical and tactical preparation and they are the ones that win easy.
    Tbh, (assuming this is povertyball) it would probably be a boring, ty 0-0 tie no matter what.

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    Tbh, (assuming this is povertyball) it would probably be a boring, ty 0-0 tie no matter what.
    I don't get that argument at all about 70s Brazil. Mexicans in the third world playing poorball would still be using 1970s medicine anyways tbh.

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    Remember how there was a time humanity didn't use to have electricity and now we do, how we didn't use to have internet and now we do, how once we got it it used to be so slow and now is faster? Humanity evolves over time.
    For the most part nutrition is a group of fads going back and forth that evolve over time and are at best based on soft science. Comparing that or psychology to our understanding of the EM force is fun I guess but is bull . The studies conflict each other and there is no 'right' answer. Steroids and speed are nothing new and the atkins diet is not avante garde.

    Wilt was bigger stronger and faster than players today and has been demonstrated objectively. What you are presenting is technology worship and little more. I bet you are an Apple fan too.

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    Because Elgin is one of the greatest 25 ever and Wilt wasn't like Cousins, he was a tram player. You ever looked at his assists?
    Zach Randolph tier body
    greatest 25 ever

    lmao

    And assists are meaningless. Top 3 team cancer all time, Kobe Bryant, has averaged a ton of assists too. Tbh the only time Wilt really won a le was because he stopped being a fuccboi and actually played team basketball. Every other year? Cancer.

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    For the most part nutrition is a group of fads going back and forth that evolve over time and are at best based on soft science. Comparing that or psychology to our understanding of the EM force is fun I guess but is bull . The studies conflict each other and there is no 'right' answer. Steroids and speed are nothing new and the atkins diet is not avante garde.

    Wilt was bigger stronger and faster than players today and has been demonstrated objectively. What you are presenting is technology worship and little more. I bet you are an Apple fan too.
    >2014
    >being this ignorant

    You have no excuse. You have the sum of human knowledge at your fingertips but you still think nutrition is at best a soft science?

    This is why you're skinnyfat. (or just plain fat, just taking a stab in the dark right now)

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    Zach Randolph tier body
    greatest 25 ever

    lmao

    And assists are meaningless. Top 3 team cancer all time, Kobe Bryant, has averaged a ton of assists too. Tbh the only time Wilt really won a le was because he stopped being a fuccboi and actually played team basketball. Every other year? Cancer.
    This is pretty ignorant. When he went crazy from 61-63 and put up all those points that was at his coach's behest because the talent level on the squad was .

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    >2014
    >being this ignorant

    You have no excuse. You have the sum of human knowledge at your fingertips but you still think nutrition is at best a soft science?

    This is why you're skinnyfat. (or just plain fat, just taking a stab in the dark right now)
    Ad hominem. Nice. I work out 4 days a week and don't drink my sugar.

    Yes soft science. I know some molecular nutritionists but they don't get much play in the overall. Even they admit that there is only a cursory understanding of the systems at play here. Looking at the debate over artificial sweeteners goes to show how ty the 'science' is.

    I said technology worship but it seems more like a hipster's celebration of the new or different than actual technology.

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    Sporting News article from 1955

    "The Stilt is most effective simply because of his physical qualities. He stands 7-feet in his sweat socks. Over this frame are spread 225 sinewy pounds. He is almost as agile as a 5-11 playmaker. He can jump 24 inches straight up."



    I'll give Wilt credit, he was definitely ahead of his time, and a lot more impressive than the other players of his era..

    However, it must have been nice playing against such awful, unathletic compe ion..

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    This is pretty ignorant. When he went crazy from 61-63 and put up all those points that was at his coach's behest because the talent level on the squad was .
    2 HOFs on his team but ty talent level

    worst defense in the league even though you have the most athletic player of all time playing over 48 minutes a game

    averaging 50 points a game but not even winning MVP



    getting shut down by Ben Wallace in game 7 of the ECFs



    "Get on my ing back Wilt"

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    Ad hominem. Nice. I work out 4 days a week and don't drink my sugar.

    Yes soft science. I know some molecular nutritionists but they don't get much play in the overall. Even they admit that there is only a cursory understanding of the systems at play here. Looking at the debate over artificial sweeteners goes to show how ty the 'science' is.

    I said technology worship but it seems more like a hipster's celebration of the new or different than actual technology.
    Rofl it's really not surprising that someone who thinks nutrition is a soft science would boil their positive nutritional habits down to "don't drink my sugar."



    And like I give a if you know some molecular nutritionists. If you're not even saying where they do their research at it's a meaningless statement.

    Even they admit that there is only a cursory understanding of the systems at play here.
    What really happens:

    "Oh FuzzyLumpkins is babbling on again with his soft science bull , let's just say we don't know so he'll stop harassing us"

    It's pretty much like when you tell a homeless guy you don't got any money on you cause you want em to leave you alone.

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    jimbo impregnating Fuzzy, tbh..

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    jimbo impregnating Fuzzy, tbh..
    FuzzyLumpkins is one of the softest giest posters I've ever encountered on the internet, tbh..he's like that wannabe know-it-all lib redditor who people call got..

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    Rofl it's really not surprising that someone who thinks nutrition is a soft science would boil their positive nutritional habits down to "don't drink my sugar."



    And like I give a if you know some molecular nutritionists. If you're not even saying where they do their research at it's a meaningless statement.



    What really happens:

    "Oh FuzzyLumpkins is babbling on again with his soft science bull , let's just say we don't know so he'll stop harassing us"

    It's pretty much like when you tell a homeless guy you don't got any money on you cause you want em to leave you alone.
    And in all of that you do not discuss the science of nutrition. This is especially delicious in light of you claiming that I cannot talk about it.

    Milk is good, milk is bad, carbs are good carbs are bad. Saccharine causes cancer, no it doesn't it reduces caloric intake, no it effects metabolism. There are so many conflicting reports out there coming from the 'science' of nutrition. Add into that the impact of advertising and all I can do is smh.

    The vast majority of it doesn't deal with the actual metabolizing of things and deals with overarching guesses using ty categorization. That is the very definition of soft science. Most of psychology uses the same approach.

    and HH playing your fluffer.

    Bluster is not compelling.

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    the NBA didn't even implement team trainers and strength/conditioning coaches until the 80s, let alone nutritionists..

    To believe that it hasn't had an impact is just asinine, tbh..

    Hundreds of pro players and coaches have discussed the impact training and nutrition has had on their careers/bodies..anybody that knows anything about training/lifting knows that there has been a huge progression in acquiring knowledge, just like most other fields..

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    the NBA didn't even implement team trainers and strength/conditioning coaches until the 80s, let alone nutritionists..

    To believe that it hasn't had an impact is just asinine, tbh..

    Hundreds of pro players and coaches have discussed the impact training and nutrition has had on their careers/bodies..anybody that knows anything about training/lifting knows that there has been a huge progression in acquiring knowledge, just like most other fields..
    So now you resort to the incredulity argument. You cannot articulate or quantify a damn thing. I am not saying that it has not had an impact. I am saying that we cannot know what that impact has been.

    At the end of the day Wilt Chamberlain was still bigger, faster, and stronger than modern NBA players despite your supposed advances. I can quantify and articulate how.

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