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I think sarunas might play as a SG, he's a very good shooter.
Is this a joke? Do Pacer's fans really think that they are better than the Spurs??
I think sarunas might play as a SG, he's a very good shooter.
Yeah...expect for a point guard quoted as being perhaps the best in the world on ESPN.com http://www.nba.com/athens2004/jasikevicius_feature.html
I was just thinking this morning that what I really needed was an unbiased Spurs/Pacers comparison written by a Pacers fan.
I've been getting really nervous about the Pacers since I learned that they acquired, well, er...nobody of significance in the offseason to date.
And oh yeah.....that rookie who was the best player in college last season, and the most NBA-ready rookie in the league. This guy won't take time to develop. He's a killer from the get go. 19 points, 9 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals, 2 blocks, 50%+ fg, 40%+ 3!! WOW! Like ESPN said....if Granger played at Duke or UNC, he would've been the first pick in the draft without hesitation. He's basically what Marvin Williams with completely reliezed upside.
Oh, and that monster defender/scorer...whats his name? Oh yeah, RON ARTEST
Well, considering the fact that we won a league best 61 games with a younger, less talented team than the one we have now...and consdering your Spurs have one of the five worst starters in the NBA in Bruce Bowen....I'd have to say an honest YES.
Remember, the Spurs didn't beat the Pacers last year. David Stern beat the Pacers. And if you recall correctly, the best team in the NBA on November 19th was clearly the Indiana Pacers. We were on pace for 68 wins, and thats including a loss vs the 76ers which the NBA later apologized over since the officiating was so bad that the game was literally handed to the 76ers.
So yes, not only do I feel the Pacers are better than the overrated Spurs, I feel it's really not even close. Sorry, but your group of washed up "stars" would only scare me if the NBA had a senior citizens tour like in golf. Good luck making it through the 82 game season without atleast 3 of the following players having a stroke or breaking a hip: Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Michael Finley, or Nick Van Exel.
Reggie Miller was dirty. One of the dirtiest player's who ever lived. I still have love for him, but the truth is the truth.
Well...yeah. See, believe it or not, there's more to basketball than scoring. When you're better than someone at 5/6 of the main aspects of basketball, and the one aspect you lose you lose by very little, there's a good chance you're the better overall player.Don't we all know Tinsley > Parker?
Classic!
Tinsley is a better passer, rebounder, defender, ball handler, and shooter. Parker is a slightly better scorer. You do the math, small fry.
If Parker truly wants to be better than Tinsley, he'll get in the gym and work on his shooting, passing, ball handling, rebounding, and defense. Untill then he'll be known as nothing more than a "Me-First" Speedy Claxton-clone who chokes in big games and is only famous because 14 year old girls think he's "sexy" and because he's dating some C-level actress.
You mean "Big Shot Rob" who got outshot by Regis Philbin on "Live With Regis & Kelly" earlier in the week? LOL. "Big Shot Rob" has made a career out of riding jocks and performing miserably, only to hit a "big shot" in the closing minutes of playoffs games. And by "big shot" I mean standing out on the perimeter doing absolutely nothing, only to have the ball roll to him so he can make a wide open 23' shot. Something not only most NBA players could do, but the majority of casual basketball players could do. I know I've been recorded as hitting 82% from wide open 3point land, and I'm willing to bet that's signifigantly higher than Robert Horry.What you never heard about Big Shot John?
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Troll, go back to the hole from whence you sprung. You know you wouldn't be here posting your if you were so confident that the Pacers were better than our Spurs. You're reaching for every excuse to make yourself feel better about the fact that your so called best baller is more interested in having a rap album than a trophy!Well, considering the fact that we won a league best 61 games with a younger, less talented team than the one we have now...and consdering your Spurs have one of the five worst starters in the NBA in Bruce Bowen....I'd have to say an honest YES.
Remember, the Spurs didn't beat the Pacers last year. David Stern beat the Pacers. And if you recall correctly, the best team in the NBA on November 19th was clearly the Indiana Pacers. We were on pace for 68 wins, and thats including a loss vs the 76ers which the NBA later apologized over since the officiating was so bad that the game was literally handed to the 76ers.
So yes, not only do I feel the Pacers are better than the overrated Spurs, I feel it's really not even close. Sorry, but your group of washed up "stars" would only scare me if the NBA had a senior citizens tour like in golf. Good luck making it through the 82 game season without atleast 3 of the following players having a stroke or breaking a hip: Brent Barry, Bruce Bowen, Robert Horry, Michael Finley, or Nick Van Exel.
You need to check yourself, man. You are either delusional, or a true imbecile.
Look this thread is stupid... basketball is a team game get that into your heads.
Individual abilities should only be used as a basis if there is a clear gap between two teams.
kinda comparing china vs. the united states... the US is so superior individually that a dysfunctional US dream team squad could still win.
in this caes the spurs and the pacers aren't that separated so stop ing about individual talents.
PS (artest is overrated as ... can we watch him play for another season before we judge him nowww)
I was just waiting for someone to say that, but I thought it would be the re Artest factor.
He will get abused at the 2 spot, not big enough or quick enough.
Artest factor said nothing to refute my observation that Indy is a horrible shooting team, with mediocre post play to boot.
Welcome to the board Rosen/SAS
Wow, you Spurs fans sure are nice people. I come in here trying to get a rise out of you and I'm still greeted. I don't know what to say. Wait I know....
Pacers over Spurs in 5.
We're taking in refugees from other boards, though this is more Mariel than Metairie.and I'm still greeted.
who cares?, we all know San Antonio is great. Lately we are talking about moves because we want it to be even greater. As i said some times before, the spurs is not like any other team, it is a model organization.
I was just thinking this morning that what I really needed was an unbiased Spurs/Pacers comparison written by a Pacers fan.
I've been getting really nervous about the Pacers since I learned that they acquired, well, er...nobody of significance in the offseason to date.
Ok I am not sure who you are or how little you know about the NBA.
But any one with Any knowledge all have SA ranked #1 this upcoming year.
With that same note any and all experts have IND ranked #2 with a few #3.
Point being SA and IND when healthy and all players in the game are closely matched with SA at this point having the edge due to the fact of the players of Indiana not having played together consistently like SA has recently.
With that said Indiana's Bench consists of one of the most versatile players in every aspect in Danny Granger.. If you do not know who he is you do not follow or grasp college basketball. David Harrison, who Dominated Andrew Bogut in Preseason Play,was injured last year but showed alot of promise. Sarunas Jasikevicius if you do not know who that is again you do not follow basketball,period.
Again anyone with knowledge is not doubting how great SA team is currently.
But if you want to discount the Pacers as "also-rans" please do so you will gladly join the ranks of the grossly ill-informed.
If you actually realize that Indiana is a legit contender for this upcoming year.
Congrats you must have done your homework.
If you are still not convinced get your head out of your "homer-ass", you are embarassing yourself......'
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case closed, who cares about this comparison anyway. The pacers should compare themselves to teams like cleveland or nets before going after San Antonio; not to mention Detroit and Miami.
I don't think anyone in this boards care about the pacers. Maybe Houston and Phoenix as they are direct rivals from the division but pacers?, who cares.
Really? I'd like to see some links.With that same note any and all experts have IND ranked #2 with a few #3.
Lets get over this, pacers fans are in denial, thats all
(i just read that someone said the spurs are overrated
Career three point shooting %
Barry/Spurs - .402
Bowen/Spurs - .382
Horry/Spurs - .370
Finley/Spurs - .370
Ginobili/Spurs - .363
Van Exel/Spurs - .357
Jone/Pacers - .357 (finally)
Johnson/Pacers - .339
Croshere/Pacers - .337
Jackson/Pacers - .336
Tinsley/Pacers - .317
Artest/Pacers - .316
Parker/Spurs - .315
Your a dumbass.With that same note any and all experts have IND ranked #2 with a few #3.
It's mostly Detroit and Miami... that makes indiana back to at least 4th or 5th
I dont know why this guy is tring to compare Indy to a Western Conference team. If I were him, I would worry about their own Conference. They will have a hard time getting out of the east with DET and MIA.
He is just trying to piss some people off. But I dont know if its working. Its just making me laugh.
Troll, go back to the hole from whence you sprung. You know you wouldn't be here posting your if you were so confident that the Pacers were better than our Spurs. You're reaching for every excuse to make yourself feel better about the fact that your so called best baller is more interested in having a rap album than a trophy!
Right. This guy is ting in his pants. What does he want us to say? "Oh, yeah, pacers are way better, we are so lucky to be the champion".
Classic case of whishful thinking.
Dude, the Pacers had a grand total of four guys who shot over .400 in the playoffs last season.
Three are gone (Miller, Jones and Davis).
One took four shots a game (Foster).
Their franchise PF shot .365.
Please refrain from comparing him to Duncan in any respect other than height.
I STOPPED READING RIGHT THERE.As great as Jermaine O'Neal is, there's only 1 player in the NBA clearly superior to Tim Duncan and that's Kevin Garnett.
this kid is on crack.
UNBIASED HUH? what a moron.
SPURS vs PACERS
OVERALL WINNER : SPURS <-- and thats all that matters to me.
I don't know, man. I'm convinced. I've already called the Spurs and asked for a refund of my season tickets.
I've also suggested that they contact the NBA and offer to send last year's championship trophy to Indianapolis, since the Pacers proved with their unprecedented 7-2 start last season that no team in the history of the NBA had a legitimate chance to beat them.
. . . . wait, what's that? You say that the 2004-05 Spurs had a better record (8-1) on November 19 than the "invincable" Pacers and were on pace for 73 wins at the same time the Pacers were on pace for 68 wins?
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