Kanye West Just Went Off!!

[T Park]

Yeah manny, they go there slow cause they are black.

NOT cause the Mayor and Governor ed up in estimates...

Nahh.

Damn white people, god....

[T Park]

eople want to steal, let them. I don't give a . Businesses have insurance too.

Boy.

Spoken like a true ignorant dumb ass.


(waits for, "You gave up on the Spurs you dont know " Standard reply"

[IcemanCometh]

black people don't vote

Cause the crackas hold em down.

[Clandestino]

everything negative in the world that happens to blacks they blame it on racism... stfu!

[T Park]

black people don't vote

suprised you didnt finish that with a

"Cause the crackas hold em down."

Since you hate white people so much.

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah manny, they go there slow cause they are black.

NOT cause the Mayor and Governor ed up in estimates...

Nahh.

Damn white people, god....

You missed my entire point, but I'm not suprised.

[T Park]

always gotta take your childish digs.

[KEDA]

Look at how the governor for Louisiana has reacted (read reactive)
and how the Mississippi governor has reacted (read proactive)

I think the Louisiana governor was just sitting around and waiting for G W to do something about it, when Haley Barbor was DOING something about it!

That lady is stupid IMO, she should have been demanding troops instead of sitting on TV crying about it! The NO mayor was more proactive about getting things for his city than she was about her state! She obviously didnt know what to do in this situation, and her people are suffering because of it.

[MannyIsGod]

always gotta take your childish digs.

No dude, you just always miss the damn point of what most people say. But since you brought up the childish digs thing. Lets take a look at your history in just this thread:

Boy.

Spoken like a true ignorant dumb ass.


(waits for, "You gave up on the Spurs you dont know " Standard reply"

look at after Clinton

AND OTHERS.


SO you think Brodels, Bush was just riding around in his helicopter today playing parchese???


If so, you are a in Moron.

[romsho]

I don't really think much of Clinton, either. Clinton's been out of office for a while. He doesn't really matter anymore. Did he care about people more than Bush does? I don't really know the answer to that. As for these "others," I'd have to know who you're talking about before I can really say much about that.

Bush, wielding his own style of conservatism, hasn't really done much to help anyone. His actions and lack of actions have left most groups of people worse off than they were when he was first elected.

I want people to thrive. I want the nation to thrive. And I can't support a president who does things to stifle peoples' ability to thrive.

You could not of summed it up any better. I also like how every time someone brings up the failings of Bush, Clinton's name magically comes up. Never about the issue, always about the politics.

[Vashner]

Bush could kick his ass... he's in great shape.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

lol tpark...


Kanye West is the
i always hated him now im going to go out and buy all his albums

[CharlieMac]

I'm not saying Bush is racist, but there are a lot of you that don't know what it is to see your people go through what black people go through. And don't sit there and give me comparisons to poor white people because it just isn't the same. You guys just don't know the frusration of growing up in a culture where you're told to have a chip on your shoulder because of all the things that have happend to that culture in the past. You guys want to let Israel slide on the way it acts because they have people trying to destroy them. Well, black people in this country have that same mentality to a degree.

The man said what a lot of his people think. Whether or not it is correct, that is a different story, but he's speaking for his culture and he's speaking very clearly. Maybe some people should start wondering why they think that instead of blaming it on him.

It is exactly the same. I grew up bouncing around town and spent a lot of time living on the east side as a kid and every single race is stuck in the same boat together in a ty situation.

I'll never, ever, EVER feel bad for someone because of the color of their skin. I, and countless others have managed to make something of ourselves without pinning the blame on "the man" when things don't go our way. I'll say what 've said elsewhere before...

One of my biggest pet peeves in life is hearing people who are very well off financially, complain about the ghetto people have to go through. "They should have this, they should have that, how can rich politicians live with themselves knowing people are suffering everyday?", and so on. I don't see so many of them moving into a neighborhood where literally everyone is black or mexican though. Suddenly black and hispanic culture isn't so beautiful when it doesn't involve you flying back home after you've enjoyed all of the ethnic festivities, is it? Would anyone financially well off voluntarily move themselves and their kids into a neighborhood so they can give back to the community? I put that scenario up high on my " that will never happen" list.

But a number of people have said that he has the right to say what he did. No argument there, he does. But by that same mentality we all have the right to call him a giant or a turd sandwich in response. Speaking of which, how were the MTV Awards a few days ago? I bet that was an enjoyable time.

Also, did anyone catch Jesse Jackson this morning asking people not to call black people displaced from their homes "refugees"? Apparently, that's racist now.

[MannyIsGod]

I think the refugee political correctness bs is pretty moronic.

[CharlieMac]

I think the refugee political correctness bs is pretty moronic.

To be fair it was Jesse Jackson.

You know sometimes he has great points to make, then he just goes over-board with .

[MannyIsGod]

It was also the Black Congressional Cacus though. They just need a ing dictionary.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

yeah i heard that last night, some black chick was saying 'theyre not refugees'

i was truely shocked when i heard them ing over that

[Vashner]

lol Jessie Jackson said "THIS IS A SLAVE SHIP" when he was at the dome.

I know it was bad but.. some locals where tell him "get out of here and let the damn busses in" to Jackons entourage...

[Shelly]

Think Jesse will run in '08?

[Medvedenko]

Look everyone...I'm a fan of Kanye's music and talent. Obviously he's seen the devastation and is very frustrated by the lack of support/response from the Bush regime. Now, calling out Bush a racist probably wasn't a good idea and pretty pedestrian in the grand scheme of things. These people need help, and yes a majority of them are black and the media seems to skew the coverage of them looting....tragedy and malice are always shown first, then comes the footage of praise and rescue.

He's upset as the rest of the country. Living up here in Canada my heart goes out to all the people affected....but blaming one man is insular at best. Close your eyes everyone, listen to the words, not the words painted black.

[duncan_21]

George Bush doesn't care about black people. He doesn't care about white people, either.

Yeah he does...as long as you can help him and his buddies make money at the cost of america.

[duncan_21]

I don't know who Kanye West is and I didn't watch the concert thing last night, however...

I see more people with access to cameras and microphones expressing their anger and frustration, i.e. the media. Last night, Bill Maher referred to the media as the real "first responders" on this disaster. I loved watching Anderson Cooper go off on politicians patting each other on the back while people are dying. I see reporters being able to get in to places where the feds are saying they don't have access to. I see reporters letting people use their cell phones to get family members to pick them up. I see reporters offering first aid if they can. I saw a reporter last night help an elderly man, obviously stranded, alone and very ill, drink some water and eat a little bit of food. Most of these reporters have seen the horrors that occur in third world countries and can't believe these kinds of things are now happening in America. I don't know if this Kanye West guy's comments were accurate, but I can't blame him, or anyone else, for wanting to voice their frustration. I know they don't have TVs or radios, but I hope that those currently stranded at the CC, the Superdome, the Astrodome, etc. some how know that they are not alone and that the rest of America is really pissed off.

Agreed, while bush is making his buddy richer by fighting a war that makes no sense we don't have the nat. guard and the troops to respond quicker costing american lives during this tragedy.

I don't agree with what kanye said, first off dude's a rapper, personally athletes, actors, and musicians have ZERO credibility to me. I could give a F what some relief pitcher or some rapper who didn't make it to the 10th grade has to say about anything.

That also goes with most politicians. I hope he wasn't censored, this is America, we should have the right to express our opinion regardless if you are right or wrong or just plain don't have any idea what you're talking about. W. doesn't know what he's saying if he's lucky enough to grunt out a coherant sentence.

[whottt]

I stayed out of this thread yesterday, I was hoping it would die. But alas, here we are on page 4 and people continue to call Kanye "stupid", "a thug", and god knows what else. Making a political statment that whottt does not agree with apparently now makes him a thug. Just goes to show how those of you who are sitting there calling him polarized are just as ing polarized yourself.

I'm not saying Bush is racist, but there are a lot of you that don't know what it is to see your people go through what black people go through. And don't sit there and give me comparisons to poor white people because it just isn't the same. You guys just don't know the frusration of growing up in a culture where you're told to have a chip on your shoulder because of all the things that have happend to that culture in the past. You guys want to let Israel slide on the way it acts because they have people trying to destroy them. Well, black people in this country have that same mentality to a degree.

The man said what a lot of his people think. Whether or not it is correct, that is a different story, but he's speaking for his culture and he's speaking very clearly. Maybe some people should start wondering why they think that instead of blaming it on him.

If someone had given me a spot on TV, I guarntee you I wouldn't stick to the ty script if I felt strongly about something and had that much passion in it. And I'm sure many of you wouldn't have either.

Like I said in another thread, I don't think the government is racist, but after a lot of racist quacking and a lot of racist waddling, you kind of start to wonder if it's a racist duck.

Hey Ace...the reason he's a ing thug is because he's whining like a little about his gang banger buddies that were firing on doctors and raping little girs getting shot...those were the only guys anyone was talking about shooting.

And the refugees wanted to see those guys shot too, they were embarrassed and disgraced by the actions of these pieces of , some of them said they would never go back to New Orleans again because of those guys..everyone did except for this dumb ing 10th grade drop out.


And BTW...Bush can't give the order for National Guardsmen to shoot to kill in this situation...he cannot power them to act as law officers...only the Govenor can give that order...it was she that gave the shoot to kill orders...

But dumb isn't educated enough to know that...fair enough...but he needs to shut the up if he doesn't know what he is talking about...because other stupid people might think he does, and a ed up situation becomes even worse.

So his little Bush hating tirade proves that he's just a ing ignorant racist hater.

He's the ing racist.

[jochhejaam]

Originally posted by MannyIsGod: I stayed out of this thread yesterday, I was hoping it would die. But alas, here we are on page 4 and people continue to call Kanye "stupid", "a thug", and god knows what else. Making a political statment that whottt does not agree with apparently now makes him a thug. Just goes to show how those of you who are sitting there calling him polarized are just as ing polarized yourself.

Based on the content of your post you would have been better off staying out. His comments were racial in nature and anyone with normal reasoning skills would come to the conclusion that statements by a promintent black rapper declaring that the President "does not care about black people" has a polarizing affect on race. Do you think it promotes racial harmony?

And to suggest that someone pointing out the obvious polarizing nature of his comments is polarized himself further illustrates your ignorance.

[Spam]

Sounds to me like Kanye struck a nerve in quite a few people.

And from the posts I've read I'd say racism is still rampant on BOTH ends of the street.