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    Evita is leading the league in Turnovers (players below 26mpg)

    he's also shooting career lows in FTs and TS%

    he's also 2nd only to to Kobe Bryant in 4th quarter turnovers

    perfectly fine
    yeah because there's so many players that handle the ball constantly while playing less than 26 minutes

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    Manu is playing poorly, but he was having a solid season until the December of , tbh..

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    yeah because there's so many players that handle the ball constantly while playing less than 26 minutes
    Jeremy Lin is having better season

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    ^^it was just a matter of simple loyalty IMO..
    I'd say it's a mixture of both.

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    Like I said the writing was on the wall. It's a damn shame. Maybe at the same time they believed and rightly so that no big name would sign here anyway so they kept what they had??? Just being devil's advocate.
    Tony only had one year remaining last summer - a contract like that is easily moveable and his stock hadn't fallen to poisonous levels yet. Might have even gotten a decent return. Could have went after someone like Lowry. If you're going to have a fat point guard on the team, might as well be one that can actually play basketball at a high level.

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    Jeremy Lin is having better season
    According to who? You? Nobody gives a about your garbage takes.

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    According to who? You? Nobody gives a about your garbage takes.
    check the #s. Lin is playing less minutes and putting up better numbers

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    According to who? You? Nobody gives a about your garbage takes.
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    Jeremy Lin is having better season
    is that so? not surprisingly, you're cancerneli's biggest homer

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    is that so? not surprisingly, you're cancerneli's biggest homer
    yup Lin is shooting better FG, FTs and 3PTs. Playing less minutes giving up less turnovers and contributing more blocks than Evita while equaling in assists.

    shortbus

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    yup Lin is shooting better FG, FTs and 3PTs. Playing less minutes giving up less turnovers and contributing more blocks than Evita while equaling in assists.

    shortbus
    how about the net rating, defensive rating and adjusting the numbers to garbage time statpadding?

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    check the #s. Lin is playing less minutes and putting up better numbers
    Stat-padding on one of the worst teams in the NBA doesn't mean much to me. Of course, leave it to a Parker fan to rely on nothing more than select box score numbers.

    PER:
    16.3 - Manu
    14.6 - Lin

    WS/48:
    .104 - Manu
    .054 - Lin

    BPM:
    +1.2 - Manu
    -1.4 - Lin

    RPM:
    3.53 - Manu
    0.05 - Lin
    Last edited by Johnny RIngo; 02-24-2015 at 04:37 PM.

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    how about the net rating, defensive rating and adjusting the numbers to garbage time statpadding?
    Sure Manu has a slight advantage defensively. But the turnovers might kill it tbh. what good is a superior defender when he turns it over on the other end?

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    Sure Manu has a slight advantage defensively. But the turnovers might kill it tbh. what good is a superior defender when he turns it over on the other end?
    Lin has a 109.5 drt, Manu has a 98.8 drt. "slight"

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    and just for good measure, Manu has a higher net rating the James Harden

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    and just for good measure, Manu has a higher net rating the James Harden
    harden >>>>>>>>>>>>> manu

    love manu but it's not even close

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    And yet we decided to give a $45 mil extension to a point guard that ....etc....etc....etc.
    Man, way to make a contribution that no one has mentioned before!!!:

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    and just for good measure, Manu has a higher net rating the James Harden
    which pretty much destroys your point of view

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    Which would be naive and stupid on their part. Tony never had anywhere near the talent or bball IQ that those two possessed. They're two of the most impactful players in NBA history. Parker's impact(even going back to his prime years) has always been mediocre in comparison. It only makes sense that he'd suffer the typical decline that happens to most NBA players in their early 30s.

    Everybody laughed at the Lakers for that Kobe contract. Spurs deserve the same for giving Tony one of the worst contracts in the league. This is what happens when you ignore analytics - stupid decisions and bad contracts. Sad to see Spurs making the same mistakes as one of the dumbest franchises in the league.
    I am completely fine with the contract. Tony deserves to finish out his career in SA after all he's achieved. It would be crazy to see him in another uniform at this point. Spurs can start rebuilding through the draft when he is still on the team and he can mentor a young PG.. Tony has the class and pedigree to do that..

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    Nothing. We have 5 rings.

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    Spurs needed to add some talent, and for the second year in a row, the neglected to do so. They haven't had the depth and upside that they have had in past. They're essentially wasting the bottom third of their roster on guys like Baynes, Ayres, Bonner, Daye/Williams and Anderson (who woulnd't be a waste at all if they actually played him). They needed to clean out some of that in order to continue to grow their talent base.
    I thought you said the Spurs had the most talented roster in the league by a mile last season? Why the sudden change of heart?

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    According to who? You? Nobody gives a about your garbage takes.

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    I thought you said the Spurs had the most talented roster in the league by a mile last season? Why the sudden change of heart?
    They did. But they got old and they did nothing to replace that talent. Their 1-10 is still elite from a 2K perspective, but they needed a better 11-15 to fill in the cracks.

    Plus, Kawhi is just straight wrecking the team right now. It's at least as big of an issue as Parker's decline.

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    They did. But they got old and they did nothing to replace that talent. Their 1-10 is still elite from a 2K perspective, but they needed a better 11-15 to fill in the cracks.

    Plus, Kawhi is just straight wrecking the team right now. It's at least as big of an issue as Parker's decline.
    How do you replace a Tony Parker who you just handed a 3 year deal? You're talking replacing at the top not at the bottom... Guys like Cojo and Baynes have been fine, considering their limited talent...

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    How do you replace a Tony Parker who you just handed a 3 year deal? You're talking replacing at the top not at the bottom... Guys like Cojo and Baynes have been fine, considering their limited talent...
    Cory's been more than fine, and he'd probably do better as a starter than Parker. Maybe Pop will start Manu and Tony and bring Cory and Danny off the bench, I dunno. They still have a gaping hole behind Leonard that they could have filled realtively easily. They're big man rotation is still lacking anyone who can score one-on-one consistently. It's just been a mess.

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