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This discussion is tired. God could open up the heavens and reveal himself and he would be scoffed at by internet trolls such as yourselves. Move on with your lives.
or if you prefer:
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcpa.htm
Jesus is essentially plagarized out of other mythologies, and more likely than not grafted onto someone who actually existed.Most progressive Christians believe that much material in the Christian Scriptures is actually folklore -- myths that grew up around the memory of Jesus during the 40 to 70 years between his execution and the writing of the Gospels. During that interval, stories about Jesus' magical powers, his supernatural origins, etc. ac ulated to produce a mixture of Yeshua, the itinerate teacher / native healer and Jesus Christ, Lord and Savior
Not unlike Gilgamesh and a host of other mythological figures, with historical basis.
This discussion is tired. God could open up the heavens and reveal himself and he would be scoffed at by internet trolls such as yourselves. Move on with your lives.
That would be evidence of a sort, and far more than we have now.
1B4 Rob posts "I'm atheist, debate me" pic with false dichotomy between atheism and religion, as if atheists go around arguing with a god they don't believe exists instead of arguing against that thing they are against.. theism.. a belief.
That would be evidence of a sort, and far more than we have now.
The exchange was about Avante not quite comprehending the Christian view of God. Nothing to do with whether or not God is real.
It's no surprise that the resident atheists run to any mention of God and desperately try to validate their own beliefs.
So it's you who has the answer right and everyone else is wrong, right?
I have lived with a Christian for 30 years I think I have it figured out.
Avante has taken one too many pile divers.
Im guessin The Iron Sheik got tired of just torture (camel clutch) and went for the spine.
Avante, you have been totally sliced and diced, just stop it, please...
How's that as if you have actually read anything here. Dude, you work way too hard at...Avante must be wrong 100% of the time...ok? Relax little man, ok?
I do get a kick out anyone who..."I'm the one who really knows the truth"....hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!
None of us know , it's just pick one of the stories and go with that.
I have lived with a Christian for 30 years I think I have it figured out.
Alrighty then.
I'll go slow...
I was talking about what they believe..ok?
Wow!
Oh you are damn right you'll go slow.
You don't believe populations of living things change over time, you don't believe the Earth is round, damn right, we don't know or believe anything. Cause YOU said.
Dude, you really aren't good at this, ok? You come off as an idiot, alright?
So did God have to leave where he was in order to come to earth and become Jesus? Try asking Judy, assuming she believes in the Trinity.
Here's a hint that you were already given by spurraider.
I can see how some stories may fluctuate depending on who's telling it and how much time has elapsed.
After all a thousand years from now someone might read a book that claims Tom Cruise had super powers to climb skyscrapers and Patrick Swayze could kill three men with one kick.
That doesn't mean they never existed.
There are to many eye witnesses that saw Jesus walk on water or heal the blind not to mention the 1000s that saw him get crucified.
Meh, was throwing in my 2 cents on an exchange without feeling like going back and reading through 10 pages of posts.
LOL "desperate" "beliefs"
What I wonder is why you feel the need to make up things that other people think/feel.
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Once one gives up the automatic assumption that God exists, and actually looks at the evidence available, reads a bit on mythologies of the Mediterranean and ancient south east asia, it is a pretty reasonable conclusion.
Actually you have ONE person's account of what thousands of OTHER people saw. That is a bit of a difference. In comic books there are lots of witnesses to things Superman did too.
I think that Jesus probably existed, but was simply a guy, who did normal human things, and didn't have a virgin mother.
If we were all microbial single cell organisms in primordial soup, how in the do complex creatures evolve from that when a single cell is incapable of determining it's own surroundings? How does it know to adapt and evolve without intelligent thought? How does it know that hey, it is cold... need a thicker membrane or something.
I understand that at first it seems simple, but seriously. How does a single cell organism actually evolve when it is incapable of instinct or thought? It just sits there. How does it know to move? How does it know to reproduce? How does it know it needs cilia? How does it know what to eat? There are just so many questions. I can see how evolution could work for more advanced creatures, but everything tends to start small which would mean that we all were once a single cell organism. In the 4 billion or so years, could that really have been enough time for a single cell organism that doesn't know , to become something like us?
Your understanding of evolution is flawed here.
Organisms, large or small, don't "know" anything and consciously adapt.
Ones that are better suited to their environment reproduce more, that is pretty much it.
You might want to try this thread for a bit more explanation on it:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=241376
So the DNA in the very first parent cell to exist should have all of the information necessary to survive on this planet and evolve to become us billions of years in the future?
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