Not if he steps on my lawn.
Shut the up. The fact that he's playing any minutes at all in a playoff game indicates that Pop can't let him just sit there. His defense is so bad that even if he shot 50% from 3 pt range, he would hurt the team. Either by giving up layups or by forcing other Spurs to pick up fouls.
what he does in practice. You think he was worth that last contract??? Quit looking for some way to justify that because it doesn't fly.
So pop is lazy. Got it.
need another person to take his role
that can give other players more completion on the team
I'm not looking for anything. I'm not a fan of Bonner but I understand the value in his contract, why he's on the team and the role he fills. You can't get past the most elemental aspect of his face value to see the bigger picture. That's your shortcoming not the teams.
He's clearly weighed his options. In the last 3 years we seen a number of younger more talented players come and go but in the end their potential at the end of the bench didn't outweigh the value Bonner gives them. If it did they would have the roster spot and Bonner would be in gone or in a suit on the 2nd row. Again I can look beyond what we see on the court and anyone with an ounce of intelligence can surmise the benefits a vet like this brings to the club. If there's any team that puts more value in system than talent its the Spurs and if you don't get that then you clearly don't understand Spurs basketball.
What's lazy is thinking that building a team is about finding the 12-15 most talented players.
BacktoBasics Bonner sucks there is no much more to analyze.
Again you're out in left. His contact was never about his level of talent but all the other aspects he brings that outweigh the bottom line skill set of another signing. You're clearly too dense to comprehend that.
I have renewed hate for ginger at this point. Wish we could just do this:
I have renewed hate for ginger at this point. Wish we could just do this:
But he is such a nice guy, why friendship and championships cant go along? he is a champion for sandwich hunting purposes.
They paid him damn near 4 million dollars per year until last season. Although I guess compared to TPs on a per basis, he's a steal now.
I'm too lazy to make a list of other players that make 4 million per year but I bet I can find some that would have made the Spurs a better team than Matty B. In any event, they need his spot to put someone than could help their future. If they NEED him to be part of practice, then give him an assistant job.
The benefits that a player like Bonner brings to a club are the same as Tony Allen, Nzar Mohommed, Steve Kerr, Jason Terry, James Posey, Doc Rivers. The guy should be on somebody else's team, helping give them a dose of championship pedigree. In whatever capacity is most effective. At this point, he's pretty much Nzar Mohommed, as a player. Bonner would actually be a top notch coaching option for the Pelicans, imo. Or he could be James Posey for the Knicks and add some Phil Jackson tutelage to his resume, while moving closer to home. Ideally, I'd prop up Robert Horry as Pelicans coach, with Bonner as an assistant. But that's all speculation, back to the point... the Spurs have enough championship pedigree, Bonner is a castaway that has never been cast away. The Spurs are short on guys who can actually defend or deflect the kind of post presence of Blake and Deandre. And that's why we see Pop/Bonner as the leads in Brokebacktoback Mountain.
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I agree with you 100%, don't understand how he is still good value for his paycheck and so on if he does absolutely nothing well nowadays. They don't even honor his three, he gets left wide open and still misses.So bringing in a guy who can actually play ball for a little bit more would be a bad move? He spreads the floor or is a good locker room guy, we get that to an extent but at the game of basketball he is not really good at all. He can't even shoot anymore.
It is time to go seperate ways, he can join the FO now and be a nice guy and a fan fave but his days of playing bball are done.
He's great in practice. Rumor has it that he worked Tiago on his defense before the Clippers series.
Nice deflection and a completely different discussion altogether. I was never debating whether or not he was over paid. Only the value of the roster spot and the thinking behind why he was given a contract over less experienced higher potential or possibly more talented players. Try to stay on topic.
Well you're beside the point on two issues. His value compared to pay...which I addressed above. That is an entirely different debate.
Secondly you presume that a more expensive but slightly better player is an option. Which is nothing more than an empty pla ude.
They can fill the roster spot if he leaves this summer and be just FINE imo, being his play on the court is not that good anymore (Never was in the playoffs) and you can't deny that no matter how you try to justify him and his contract. His contract is cheap I admit but his contributions on the court are minimal at this point so he is taking up a roster spot pretty much along with Ayres (Who both are FA's THANK GOD). Bonner coming back or not will have no bearing on how the team moves or does going forward, period.
the only thing bonner brings to this team is vast knowledge on sandwiches. that's it. this "glue guy/leader" is a bunch of bull . duncan holds this team together, no one else.
Bottomline. He's taking up space. Not valuable space. But space none the less. But you won't convince me that whatever he brings in knowing the system and in practice overrides the potential benefit of giving someone else a few minutes of game time here and there. If nothing else, to confirm whether some of the young guys are NBA ready or not.
I can see the Spurs going through a stretch next year that we aren't looking very good, and everyone is going to claim that Bonner was the guy who kept everything together
Basics is a weird guy, Bonner earns more than Patty Mills, plays little to nothing, doesnt have balls, cant even shot a 3, I cant see any sense of confidence, his defense is non existent, caveman´s body, etc.
He needs to go if we want to get serious, too much time and money he had.
Mills is getting paid $3M/yr whereas Bonner is on the vet min, half of which is paid by the league.
Yes this year thats true, but before he signed a 4 year 14mil deal which is too much for a traffic cone.
Right, but we're not talking about paying him $4M to return again. He'd be getting the vet min, same as this year. I don't see why there's any issue with Bonner now that he's been relegated to the right role at the right cost.
I think many of us feels its too late, he cant even shoot the 3 so you can put a guy like Kyle Anderson there shooting and if fails you cant get mad because at least you are developing him.
Something about BonBon gives Spurs bad luck... for us the Sandwich haters.
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