Yeah, Seattle's offseason has made the least sense so far. They are severely dragging their feet on taking care of really important free agents like Radman and Evans. If you squint you can almost see Mikki Moore starting at center.
.No one is saying that the Spurs are going to be old THIS season. But Finley and Van Exel signed ONE YEAR DEALS and Barry will be 35 next season. So the Spurs will definitley be short of young swingmen NEXT summer
can the Spurs get a decent one with the money that will be there when the Finley and NVE deals expire? or am I misunderstand how the cap works? (very possible)
Where'd I say that?
Actually, if Van Exel puts up Porter's numbers, I'd be shocked.And Nick Van Exel is ten times better then Terry Porter was when he played here. Porter was washed up and tired. Van Exel with bad knees will do a better job then Porter did and I'm not saying that Porter was horrible when he played here, just too old and slow.
Glad that you agree with me.Sure TimVP, I can see what you're talking about. The Spurs do need to find a replacement for Bowen in the near future and possibly for Horry as well. But this season the Spurs are ready and loaded with talent. Too old now, NO. Does the Spurs front office need to find younger guys in the future, YES.
I know that Barnes was only considering the Kings and the Spurs.
Then he came to San Antonio and worked out with the Spurs for three or four days, and then after that .. I haven't heard anything.
The Kings have 12 players signed (I think) so I guess he could sign there for the minimum just as easily as here.
Wasn't there also a report that the Spurs were after Kapono? Did he sign anywhere?
I understand from someone near the organization that they are trying to avoid re-signing Evans.No one knows what is happening with Radmanovic. I think they are still trying to deal him. Last I heard they were speaking with the Celtics.
Ok, so Mikki starts at PF then....I understand from someone near the organization that they are trying to avoid re-signing Evans.
I imagine they had to be looking for a trade, but it had better be near-blockbuster quality or else keeping Jesus makes no sense.
Well, I'll try to get more info about them. Noel has been invited up there early (starting next week) which is kind of odd too - training camp doesn't start for another three+ weeks.
Doesn't sound odd at all -- if things shake out like they seem to be now he could be firmly entrenched on the roster early. It'll be great if he gets a guarantee out of it.
can the Spurs get a decent swingman next year with the money that will be there when the Finley and NVE deals expire? or am I misunderstanding how the cap works? (very possible)
Are you sure that finley sign only for one year with no team or player option for a second year ?
I know foxsport say 1 year but hoopshype which is quite serious list him as 3 years deal.
next summer could be intersting because the spurs will have the mle
they will have scola to deal with
they will need 2 swingmen to
or they can try to convince mike and nvl to play one more year at their current prices
No, I don't know if it's 1 year for sure.
There's been no confirmation.
The AP article said 1 year. Patricia's basketball says 1 year. Fox Sports said 1 year. Hoopshype shows it as 1 year (http://hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm). So at this point, that's what I'm assuming.
Last edited by Kori Ellis; 09-09-2005 at 06:05 PM.
well i think its good for devin and the best for his career,, with the spurs i dont think his assets and talent would have been maiximized it sad to see him go and at the same time i wish him all the best in his future and hope to see him in a sours uniform oneday again.....
Hopshype shows 3 year (look at Parker contract and NVE contract, they fill with $0 when the contract ends).
If an AP article said 1 year, you're probably right.
Next offseason, if he wants to remain a Spurs, Spurs could use the Non-Bird exception to give him $3M without using the MLE.
The move had to be done. There's no way around it. You can call Holt cheap all you want, but the fact is this is a business and you have to make money while remaining compe ive.
This fits the bill. While yes, it does mean they will have to add a young swing man next season it also means they have ways to get around that. They can sign another vet next season if it comes down to that, and address the issue the following offseason.
I think the Spurs did everything possible to move someone and keep Devin, but it just didn't happen. Either way, I can't fault the Spurs for not picking up the contract.
Do you think Devin would rather ride the pine here as the 12th man or actually havea chance to prove himself in Utah? I think that was a consideration as well.
That's sums up my thoughts on this matter.
Obviously playing for the Spurs was a dream come true for Devin (and he's got rings to boot); surely now he wants to move on to another dream of (possibly) starting in the NBA. I'm not up-to-date on the Jazz's roster, but with Raja Bell recently departed, Brown has opted for an opportunity to shine. It's an easy stretch that Devin will be a favorite of Sloan's, given the influence Pop had on his development.
If I'm Devin, I'm happy with the change, and all that it presents.
Vaya con Dios vato.
I think that if brown had a healthy back you gotta keep him around for the future. With no guarantees that a major injury won't reoccur I am happy they didn't sign him.
That is the point of the attempts at trading Barry. The Spurs from a basketball stand-point do not see Devin as a better option than Brent. What they see financially is Devin at $2.5M and under the threshold as a better option than Barry at $5M and over the threshold.
Vlade will take the qualifying offer and be unrestricted next summer.
The bad back was THE only issue...
The MRI's showed it was still messed up. Plus he missed workouts.
Business is business... we are not a charity we are a championship team. And we can't spend 2 million on something that's gonna blow a transmission mid season.
Who said that about the MRI?The bad back was THE only issue...
The MRI's showed it was still messed up. Plus he missed workouts.
I knew they weren't going to match the offer.
Well, this is EXACTLY what I had been in' about all summer. The late addition of Finley cost this team a promising young "swingman" in Devin Brown. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Getting Finley at that price was good, however the move was not worth losing Devin.
With the "no-luxury tax" mandate issued by Holt, I'm sure the FO worked diligently to try and move some contracts. However, they never should have put themselves at risk of losing him in the first place.
The hot pursuit of Finley reminds me of how they "kissed" JKidd's ass two summers ago. How'd that deal turn out? The best thing that happened to us is that he turned us down. Otherwise, the cap structure and cosmetic makeup of this team would have been radically different. Try winning a championship with no Manu and no Parker. But I digress.
Is there anyone here that doubts both Finley and NVE are one-year experiments? Sure, both are awesome additions, but for how long. As of now, there IS no long-term answer at the swing position. The Spurs " ed" around with Finley long enough to miss out on Evans and now Brown is gone. I'm not sure what the status is with Matt Barnes. Besides, they've got no money left anyway and Holt wouldn't dare incur a luxury tax - no sir.
This was a short-term lease in which they mortgaged part of their future. It was simply not worth it. I doubt Fin will play next year for the same amount - especially if we win the championship. This team better hope they can reacquire Devin or a comparable replacement after this season.
This thread is a classic. MB, timvp, and Kori whining that the Spurs are not signing a 12th man for $2.5M. I thought whining about such things was GW's job. When you look at how such elite teams like Miami and Phoenix turn over half their roster, complaining about how the Spurs fill in their 12th man is just ridiculous. The Spurs have also turned over a lot of their roster in past years. Almost by definition, non-rotation slots are unstable.
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