We need a legit center...Undisclosed team out west thinking of signing Larry Sanders

[UNT Eagles 2016]

We were the 1 seed in 11-12, and lost in the second round. If you throw out Eastern records as tainted with so many teams this millenia, and you should, we had the best in the West at least 3 other times and flamed out.

#1 overall record means . Health means all.

Incorrect, the Bulls had the #1 overall seed over us in both 10-11 AND 11-12 due to tiebreaker.

[kobyz]

Spurs bench outscored the Clippers bench by like 40 points in the series..the bench wasn't even one of the top 5 reasons the Spurs lost the series..shut your ass up and stop trying to be edgy, tbh, I get it, you've been quoting all my posts since I sent you those PMs..

such ty bench defense of patty, manu, boris and bynes, it was a reason period! lol trying to make it seems like that scoring bench different saying much, and that clippers bench uses rate is close to what pop does and that clippers bench didn't overachieve against us... me trying to be edgy? lol "the pot calling the kettle black" !

[D_Admiral]

Health over HCA, id take my chances with this team having to close out on the road over injuries. Gotta remember spurs have some big time postseason wins and closeouts on the road

[HarlemHeat37]

such ty bench defense of patty, manu, boris and bynes, it was a reason period! lol trying to make it seems like that scoring bench different saying much, and that clippers bench uses rate is close to what pop does and that clippers bench didn't overachieve against us... me trying to be edgy? lol "the pot calling the kettle black" !

You just admitted the Clippers bench isn't important to their success..overachieving is irrelevant in this argument..when ranking the reasons the Spurs lost, the bench that outscored the opposing bench by 40 isn't even close to the reason they lost..

EDIT: I was actually way off, the Spurs bench outscored LA's by far more than I thought..also, the Clippers bench didn't overachieve, they actually played worse than their regular season averages..I guess the perception was different because one of the worst players in the league(Rivers) had a good series..

[kobyz]

You just admitted the Clippers bench isn't important to their success..overachieving is irrelevant in this argument..when ranking the reasons the Spurs lost, the bench that outscored the opposing bench by 40 isn't even close to the reason they lost..

EDIT: I was actually way off, the Spurs bench outscored LA's by far more than I thought..also, the Clippers bench didn't overachieve, they actually played worse than their regular season averages..I guess the perception was different because one of the worst players in the league(Rivers) had a good series..

You way all over the place and not on point, but keep trying...

[HarlemHeat37]

You way all over the place and not on point, but keep trying...

my point was completely wrong, Spurs outscored the Clippers bench by a ton of points, so I'm going to divert

[Hoops Czar]

You just admitted the Clippers bench isn't important to their success..overachieving is irrelevant in this argument..when ranking the reasons the Spurs lost, the bench that outscored the opposing bench by 40 isn't even close to the reason they lost..

EDIT: I was actually way off, the Spurs bench outscored LA's by far more than I thought..also, the Clippers bench didn't overachieve, they actually played worse than their regular season averages..I guess the perception was different because one of the worst players in the league(Rivers) had a good series..

That's not apples to apples But, more like apples to watermelons.. The Spurs bench played for 669 minutes compared to LAC's 421 minutes. Based on that alone, one would stand to assume the Spurs would outscore the Clippers bench. Did you actually have to look that up? I would also venture to bet that the Clips didn't go more than 15 minutes in the entire series where all 5 starters were on the bench at the same time. The Spurs had plenty of chances to win the series however, to Kobys point, the Spurs bench got torched in the 4th quarter of game 4, and that could have easily gone down as the turning point in the series (Spurs up 3-1 to tied 2-2).

[HarlemHeat37]

That's not apples to apples But, more like apples to watermelons.. The Spurs bench played for 669 minutes compared to LAC's 421 minutes. Based on that alone, one would stand to assume the Spurs would outscore the Clippers bench. Did you actually have to look that up? I would also venture to bet that the Clips didn't go more than 15 minutes in the entire series where all 5 starters were on the bench at the same time. The Spurs had plenty of chances to win the series however, to Kobys point, the Spurs bench got torched in the 4th quarter of game 4, and that could have easily gone down as the turning point in the series (Spurs up 3-1 to tied 2-2).

You guys are arguing against your own point..

The Clippers bench was largely irrelevant in the series, as you've both essentially admitted by citing their lack of usage and minutes..they weren't even one of the top 5 reasons for the Spurs losing the series..claiming a bench that was severely outscored by the Spurs' bench was a primary reason the Clippers won the series is extremely stupid, tbh..

Even if they did outplay the Spurs bench on a per minute basis, which they absolutely didn't, it still goes against the point that the Spurs bench was a major factor for why they lost the series..it wasn't, and there's no absolutely no argument that it was..

[Hoops Czar]

You guys are arguing against your own point(as you did the other day)..

The Clippers bench was largely irrelevant in the series, as you've both essentially admitted by citing their lack of usage and minutes..they weren't even in the top 5 reasons for the Spurs losing the series..claiming a bench that was severely outscored by the Spurs' bench was a primary reason the Clippers won the series is extremely stupid, tbh..

Even if they did outplay the Spurs bench on a per minute basis, which they absolutely didn't, it still goes against the point that the Spurs bench was a major factor for why they lost the series..it wasn't, and there's no absolutely no argument that it was..

Sure they were. That's why the Clippers bench only played for 421 minutes in the series. You don't have to tell me how ty their bench was. If they would have gone on to lose the series, bench depth would have been a contributing cause. I thought the argument was how bad the Spurs bench defense was and that bad bench D doesn't cost teams championships? The Spurs bench certainly had more time on the court to affect the outcome of games than the Clippers bench did.

[HarlemHeat37]

Sure they were. That's why the Clippers bench only played for 421 minutes in the series. You don't have to tell me how ty their bench was. If they would have gone on to lose the series, bench depth would have been a contributing cause. I thought the argument was how bad the Spurs bench defense was and that bad bench D doesn't cost teams championships? The Spurs bench certainly had more time on the court to affect the outcome of games than the Clippers bench did.

Ok..so you believe the Spurs' bench defense was a major factor for why they lost the Clippers series and potentially costed them a le?(the exact same bench as 2014)

I honestly can't remember a team in NBA history that didn't win a le because of their bench defense..

[Hoops Czar]

Ok..so you believe the Spurs' bench defense was a major factor for why they lost the Clippers series and potentially costed them a le?(the exact same bench as 2014)

I honestly can't remember a team in NBA history that didn't win a le because of their bench defense..

Lack of bench depth is the same as poor bench D though. It's one of the biggest reasons why the Clippers can't get out of the 2nd round. It's why Miami couldn't keep up with the Spurs in 2014. Not always the case but, you can't have a bunch of one way players that can't stop the opponent from scoring. Yeah, the Spurs bench obliterated the Miami heat primarily because the Spurs were well rested and the Heat were running on fumes heading into the finals. It was matchup made in from a Miami perspective. The lack of depth killed them in that series. If the Spurs had to play their starters 38-40 minutes a game, I'm pretty sure they'd be pretty screwed in more ways than one.

And no, the Spurs didn't lose to the Clippers because of their bench per se. However, they did get torched in the 4th quarter of a pivotal game 4 when the Spurs could have put a stranglehold on the series. That was the only point I was trying to make.

[D_Admiral]

Spurs lost series cuz belli got benched