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    this er has richard jefferson on his list
    And what's wrong with that? He was an excellent talent and a fan favorite, always good for 2-3 electrifying dunks per game including a facial every 3-5 games. He was notoriously clutch, including making the game-winning jumper in OT against the Thunder in Chesapeake, a tough corner 3 to beat Utah in Salt Lake in (2011?) and another one at the Palace in Detroit in 2012.

    However, his contract became unfortunately bersome with a rapidly progressing rookie Kawhi on the team playing the same position and RJ was on the wrong side of 30 so we dealt him away. Still one of the more talented Spurs and a key contributor in the 2011 campaign that saw the Spurs boast a legendary 46-9 record over the first 55 games of the season before a slew of unlucky injuries at the exact wrong time after February took their toll and just squashed it. RJ was pretty darn good offensively again in 2012, but he was losing PT to Kawhi and even Danny Green because their defense was better. We ended up salary dumping him for an old veteran who we hoped could play defense and re-claim some magic from 9 years prior, but it ultimately wasn't enough to beat the free throw thunder.

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    And what's wrong with that? He was an excellent talent and a fan favorite, always good for 2-3 electrifying dunks per game including a facial every 3-5 games. He was notoriously clutch, including making the game-winning jumper in OT against the Thunder in Chesapeake, a tough corner 3 to beat Utah in Salt Lake in (2011?) and another one at the Palace in Detroit in 2012.

    However, his contract became unfortunately bersome with a rapidly progressing rookie Kawhi on the team playing the same position and RJ was on the wrong side of 30 so we dealt him away. Still one of the more talented Spurs and a key contributor in the 2011 campaign that saw the Spurs boast a legendary 46-9 record over the first 55 games of the season before a slew of unlucky injuries at the exact wrong time after February took their toll and just squashed it.
    this is worse than your "romo being injured is a blessing in disguise" post

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    Richard jefferso wtf?

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    this is worse than your "romo being injured is a blessing in disguise" post
    I didn't expect the Cowboys to go worse than 3 & 4 without Romo.... ty luck

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    Yet when Rique shoots 30% in Eurobasket you defend him.
    Link? Or just another baseless, vague accusation as usual?

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    Parker is having a solid season, so far, haven't had any problems with him, at all, as I've said before..

    He was really good last November, as well, IIRC..even better than he has been, this season, IIRC..the problem is later on in the season, hopefully his body holds up..

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    Robinson was great for awhile but similarly to most of the athletic big guys in the league, injuries took their toll pretty early... love David, but he didn't have longevity on his side.

    Top 10 spurs all-time? (Tentative list)

    1. Tim Duncan
    2. David Robinson
    3. Manu Ginobili
    4. George Gervin
    5. Tony Parker
    6. Bruce Bowen
    7. Kawhi Leonard
    8. Sean Elliott
    9. Richard Jefferson
    10. James Silas

    You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, mings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.

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    You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, mings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.
    Johnny Moore, Kerr or Horry are also all ranked way above RJ in my book.

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    You must be young. I can 5 spurs better than RJ. Robertson, AJ, Gilmore, Newman, mings. You could even put Strickland in there. I would even put Green and Mills above RJ at this point.
    Can't judge Robertson, Gilmore, Newman, mings -- not alive back then -- I think those were the "Dark Ages" of the Spurs. The Gervin era was the classical Roman-Greco era and the Robinson era was the renaissance, so anything in between is medieval.


    AJ was extremely overrated -- paid good money to be a career motivator. Good passer but couldn't shoot or score and couldn't really defend either but in the TD/David era as a perimeter defender funneling your man to the bucket was good enough defense.

    Rod Strickland -- lol, that guy was a jerk

    Green and Mills haven't had nearly enough impact

    Moore, again another dark ages player

    Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.



    I do miss RJ's clutch threes and old Kevin Brock and the crowd's excitement whenever he nailed one...

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    Can't judge Robertson, Gilmore, Newman, mings -- not alive back then -- I think those were the "Dark Ages" of the Spurs. The Gervin era was the classical Roman-Greco era and the Robinson era was the renaissance, so anything in between is medieval.


    AJ was extremely overrated -- paid good money to be a career motivator. Good passer but couldn't shoot or score and couldn't really defend either but in the TD/David era as a perimeter defender funneling your man to the bucket was good enough defense.

    Rod Strickland -- lol, that guy was a jerk

    Green and Mills haven't had nearly enough impact

    Moore, again another dark ages player

    Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.



    I do miss RJ's clutch threes and old Kevin Brock and the crowd's excitement whenever he nailed one...

    Moore, not age. Spurs made a WCF with him, Gilmore, and Gervin. I was a baby at the time but I still read about these guys. Strickland was an a hole, but he was better than RJ was when he was with the Spurs.

    There was really no dark ages for the Spurs other than the year before Robinson join the Spurs and and year before Duncan was drafted. Spurs have only missed the playoff 3 times I believe since joining the NBA.

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    RJ in a list of spurs all time ?


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    Top Spurs all time...Richard Jefferson??? SFP...

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    Moore, not age. Spurs made a WCF with him, Gilmore, and Gervin. I was a baby at the time but I still read about these guys. Strickland was an a hole, but he was better than RJ was when he was with the Spurs.

    There was really no dark ages for the Spurs other than the year before Robinson join the Spurs and and year before Duncan was drafted. Spurs have only missed the playoff 3 times I believe since joining the NBA.
    I always thought the 80s post Gervin were the Spurs' dark era

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    Kerr and Horry were like NBA equivalents of special teams -- situational shot makers and made most of their impacts on other teams.

    I do miss RJ's clutch threes
    Something doesn't compute here.

    Kerr and Horry were the top "clutch 3" performers of their era and each won 2 rings with the Spurs. I'd say they made quite a lot of impact with the Spurs... (and Horry's hip check certainly made a lot of impact on Nash!)

    RJ was overpaid, a huge disappointment, somebody the fans disliked (and players too given their behavior when they met him again) and the 2 years he spent with the Spurs are forgettable and already forgotten. I'd compare him to RMJ, except RMJ was actually liked by the fans in his first year.

    BTW compared to these guys 2-year stints with the Spurs, Kerr spent 4 years in SA and Horry 5...

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    Something doesn't compute here.

    Kerr and Horry were the top "clutch 3" performers of their era and each won 2 rings with the Spurs. I'd say they made quite a lot of impact with the Spurs... (and Horry's hip check certainly made a lot of impact on Nash!)

    RJ was overpaid, a huge disappointment, somebody the fans disliked (and players too given their behavior when they met him again) and the 2 years he spent with the Spurs are forgettable and already forgotten. I'd compare him to RMJ, except RMJ was actually liked by the fans in his first year.

    BTW compared to these guys 2-year stints with the Spurs, Kerr spent 4 years in SA and Horry 5...
    RMJ was a clutch shooter in 2009 but much worse overall because his defense was atrocious and he was useless when run off the three point line.

    I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years) was a "huge disappointment". Sure, he didn't morph into a bona fide superstar, but he was one of the main bright spots on those 2010, 2011 teams, in particular the 2011 team that started out 46–9 and was poised to win 67+ and an easy le in a wide-open year before the injuries toppled that season.

    Somehow, I can't peg either Kerr or Horry (both always-bench players, particularly on the Spurs) as top 10 all-time Spurs; they had a couple legendary moments, but they weren't there to help carry significant parts of the main load the vast majority of the time. Also, it's hard to get past the fact that Kerr will always be remembered most as a Bull and Horry a Laker.

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    [QUOTE=UNT Eagles 2016;8279137]I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years)[quote]

    Ok, 2.5 seasons.

    he was one of the main bright spots on those 2010, 2011 teams
    Actually on those years it was the big 3 (especially Parker in 2011) + a bit of George Hill...

    Somehow, I can't peg either Kerr or Horry (both always-bench players, particularly on the Spurs) as top 10 all-time Spurs;
    I didn't say top 10, I said "ranked way above RJ".

    And re: Kerr I seem associated with the Spurs quite regularly, especially since he moved into front office/coaching.

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    As much as offcourt actions make it tough...whoever said Alvin Robertson is correct.
    He was a great 2 way player. I'd say he's ahead of Bowen on that list.

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    [QUOTE=will_spurs;8279147][QUOTE=UNT Eagles 2016;8279137]I wouldn't say RJ's stint (which, by the way, lasted from 2009 to 2012 -- that's more than 2 years)

    Ok, 2.5 seasons.



    Actually on those years it was the big 3 (especially Parker in 2011) + a bit of George Hill...



    I didn't say top 10, I said "ranked way above RJ".

    And re: Kerr I seem associated with the Spurs quite regularly, especially since he moved into front office/coaching.
    With the Warriors? croffle. Guy hasn't been associated with the Spurs since June 2003.

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    As much as offcourt actions make it tough...whoever said Alvin Robertson is correct.
    He was a great 2 way player. I'd say he's ahead of Bowen on that list.
    During the worst era of the Spurs though, tbh...

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    During the worst era of the Spurs though, tbh...
    sure. but there's not many that would argue he wasn't a top player. IIRC, he's one of the players that Jordan actually gave credit to for being able to guard him tough.

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    sure. but there's not many that would argue he wasn't a top player. IIRC, he's one of the players that Jordan actually gave credit to for being able to guard him tough.
    that was early Jordan though... well before he won his first le.

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    Green, Diaw and Horry are far ahead of Jefferson on an all-Spurs list, I don't even think there's much of an argument otherwise, tbh..I'd say Splitter, Bonner and probably Patty are ahead of him, too..maybe Stephen Jackson, depending on how much you value his short stints..

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    RJ is vying for the top 10 worst Spurs players tbh.

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    3&noD player that was the 2nd highest paid player next to Duncan and was a known playoff choker. Really a bust tbh.

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