This game is an example of of why I've been an advocate of Tony this season.

[dabom]

dabom ting himself for hours on end, well into the morning.

Parker's great game broke him.

I'm done with this thread again. Came for the laughs.

[midnightpulp]

Me neither. But it's a good option to get him going. He has the mismatch more than not. Others are being posted up so why not Leonard? He's been much better dealing with double and triple teams though he could improve there.

We're in agreement more than not too. I don't want or expect Leonard to get all the touches or shot attempts. I agree 2-3 guys sharing the scoring load is key against most teams.

My issue, and sorry I feel like a broken record,is parking Leonard at the 3 point line. Pop has an entire playbook at his disposal and an alley oop play is all he can come up for Leonard?

Leonard is pretty lethal from the "Bowen spot." It's a triple threat position for him. He can take the 3, pull up for a jumper, or drive it. I agree Pop can design some more sets from him, but it's a 2 way street as well. Kawhi sometimes lacks aggressiveness and decisiveness. We have to remember this is his first year really being an "offensive" player.

That eye infection (missed training camp) and then the mid-season injury last year derailed some of his offensive development.

[AFMadison]

Has a thread been created about posters who need to be pinked?

[midnightpulp]

The Spurs should give the ball to Kawhi in the post because he's a permanent mismatches creator there, for himself and others. He was one of the most efficient post-player in the game this season, over .80%, and the team stopped using him.



Kawhi still takes mid jumps in a game, why not giving him open looks even if he expends some energy instead of bad/contested shots...

Young players build his confidence on the offensive end and it would be better if he sees the ball going in than not.

"Slow play equals death."

- Rick Carlisle

Kawhi will get swarmed to death by a team like Golden State in the post. The Jordan/Kobe style mid-post game is pretty much a relic now. Defenses are too fast and long now. Kawhi has been an efficient post-player because he's not overused there.

Compare his post touches with someone like Kobe, who still thinks we're in the 00s.

For Kawhi to become a truly elite offensive player, he needs to add a much more solid dribble-drive game.

[Spurtacular]

He wasn't injured for the playoffs. Played all his minutes and then played the Euros. Dude was just a ing turd. No if and or buts.

You really think TP was anywhere near 100 percent for the Clips series?

[YGWHI]

There's plenty of shots to go around for our top 3/4 guys.

If something we learned about Parker's 20/30 points games is that Kawhi has a limited role in those games.

Other teams can have two perimeter guys and a big scoring points, with Parker we can't, it's just him in a two-man-game with a bigman/Tim before/LMA now.

I wouldn't be alarmed at Kawhi's lack of shot attempts right now

Good for you.

[dabom]

35 year old kobe was first all nba team. Imagine in his prime.

[dabom]

You really think TP was anywhere near 100 percent for the Clips series?

What do you think? If he wasn't, he would have taken the summer off got.

[steeledl]

"Slow play equals death."

- Rick Carlisle

Kawhi will get swarmed to death by a team like Golden State in the post. The Jordan/Kobe style mid-post game is pretty much a relic now. Defenses are too fast and long now. Kawhi has been an efficient post-player because he's not overused there.

Compare his post touches with someone like Kobe, who still thinks we're in the 00s.

For Kawhi to become a truly elite offensive player, he needs to add a much more solid dribble-drive game.

It's hard to doubt Kawhi because of the work and growth he has already displayed in his young NBA career.... but I'm not sure he has the lateral quickness or natural ball handling skills to get to that elite level \dribble drive. He can certainly improve though and I agree that is where his game needs the most work.

[dabom]

Low IQ posters want a perfect player even when he is the 2nd best player in the NBA at 24 years old. Kawhi is in ELITE company.

[YGWHI]

Kawhi will get swarmed to death by a team like Golden State in the post.

Are you talking about the guy who scored 19 and 26 points posting over Thompson Barnes and Iguodala last year? 22 without the Big 3 two years ago...

I can see Kawhi getting the double teamed if they play Iggy/Barnes and Draymond as center instead of Bogut like they did in the Finals for long minutes, but I can't see this team giving him the ball to make it happen.

If Parker can't recognize a favorable matchup and give him the ball against Harden this season, I don't expect they'll do against Warriors.

[dabom]

Are you talking about the guy who scored 26 points posting over Thompson Barnes and Iguodala last year? 19 in the first game, 22 without the Big 3 two years ago...

I can see Kawhi getting the double team if they play Draymond as center instead of Bogut like they did in the Finals for long minutes, but I can't see this team giving him the ball to make it happen.

If Parker can't recognize a favorable matchup and give him the ball against Harden this season, I don't expect they'll do against Warriors.

Mid is a ty poster bro. I can't believe he is serious with his ty takes.

[midnightpulp]

If something we learned about Parker's 20/30 points games is that Kawhi has a limited role in those games.

Other teams can have two perimeter guys and a big scoring points, with Parker we can't, it's just him in a two-man-game with a bigman/Tim before/LMA now.


Good for you.

Checking out the various games on BBRef from last season, I'd say Kawhi's was about on his season PPG average in games where Tony scored 20-30 points.

You do realize also that the attention Kawhi gets opens things up for Tony?

I get it, Kawhi is your favorite player, but if the goal is to win a le, Tony is going to have to be a big part of the offense. There's no way around it. We aren't beating the Warriors with Kawhi getting 20+ shots per game. And don't say, but he might only get less than 10

You and I both know that isn't going to happen unless Kawhi is triple teamed every time down or Pop has lost his mind.

[Spurtacular]

What do you think? If he wasn't, he would have taken the summer off got.

He had rest between the playoffs and the summer games, dude.

Anyhow, the eye test shows it. The difference between TP last season and this season is obvious to any non cuck.

[YGWHI]

Mid is a ty poster bro. I can't believe he is serious with his ty takes.

I try not to judge posters by their bad takes, but a guy who says Parker should be the 3rd option and then uses this game as example is very confused.

[midnightpulp]

Are you talking about the guy who scored 19 and 26 points posting over Thompson Barnes and Iguodala last year? 22 without the Big 3 two years ago...

I can see Kawhi getting the double teamed if they play Iggy/Barnes and Draymond as center instead of Bogut like they did in the Finals for long minutes, but I can't see this team giving him the ball to make it happen.

If Parker can't recognize a favorable matchup and give him the ball against Harden this season, I don't expect they'll do against Warriors.

Kawhi wasn't forcefed in the post in those games.

Look how many shots he made at the basket the last time we played them:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...504050SAS.html

And when does Harden guard Kawhi? Ariza guards him when we play the Rockets. They hide Harden on Green.

And about good match ups vs. Golden State:

[midnightpulp]

Gib bawl to Kiwi

[midnightpulp]

I try not to judge posters by their bad takes, but a guy who says Parker should be the 3rd option and then uses this game as example is very confused.

Jesus you're in' stupid. How many times did Manu outscore/outshoot Tim and Tony when he was the 3rd option? Or Tony outscore Manu and Tim when he was the 3rd option? Or Duncan outscore Kawhi and Tony?

And if anything, this game backs up my idea (along with Tony's solid play this season) more than ever before that Tony needs to be that 3rd option scorer if Kawhi/LMA are unproductive in a game. You and your ed brethren want Tony relegated to a Derek Fisher role and/or want to see him injured so a bench warrior like Mills can take his place (great idea ).

It's clear now. You're a Kawhi fanboy who simply wants to see Tony's role diminished so the team can "gib bawl to Kiwi " more.

Cool. You want to see Kawhi average 25 points per game. I want this team to win the le.

[YGWHI]

I get it, Kawhi is your favorite player

Wrong, It's DRob for my father. And Tim. Then Kawhi.
I'm going to act like you care about this...When I made my account I had other nickname in my mind -the same I had on twitter- but after read Kawhi's insane criticism in those days on ST, picked this one.

We aren't beating the Warriors with Kawhi getting 20+ shots per game

Yep. Because we'll win with Parker 19 FGA...

[YGWHI]

And when does Harden guard Kawhi? Ariza guards him when we play the Rockets.

In the game in Houston. For 7 minutes in the 3rd quarter.

[midnightpulp]

Wrong, It's DRob for my father. And Tim. Then Kawhi.
I'm going to act like you care about this...When I made my account I had other nickname in my mind -the same I had on twitter- but after read Kawhi's insane criticism in those days on ST, picked this one.


Yep. Because we'll win with Parker 19 FGA...

When did I advocate that?

"Gib bawl to Kiwi ."

That's pretty much all this boils down to.

[YGWHI]

You and your ed brethren want Tony relegated to a Derek Fisher role and/or want to see him injured so a bench warrior like Mills can take his place.

Are you crazy? Getting mad? I barely post about Parker or in Parker's threads. I posted just a few comments last weeks about him and his need to improve his court vision/playmakers skills.

You want to see Kawhi average 25 points per game. I want this team to win the le

Wrong again. I want this team to give Kawhi the chance to develop his game instead of being iced for entire quarters. Kawhi being the best player he can be will help to win a le.

[YGWHI]

When did I advocate that?

Using this game as example in your posts. And 2007 Spurs run.

[Arcadian]

The Spurs are not a "two man attack" and no reasonable person ever suggested that. It's the system involving everyone that makes the team so great. That and amazing frontcourt depth. Nobody can compete with this frontcourt of Leonard/Aldridge/Duncan/Diaw/West/Boban/Simmons.

The beauty of the Spurs is that there is always someone else to step up when someone else slacks. Leonard has an off shooting night? Parker scores 26. Aldridge has a bad game? Diaw gives us 18 off the bench. Duncan plays like he's actually a 39 year old man? Boban has his back. Patty Mills and Danny Green can't find their shot? Manu has just enough left in the tank for the occasional scoring outburst.

It's the depth that will win a championship. Just like 2014. Except better.

[Splits]

I barely post about Parker or in Parker's threads