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I thought it was interesting that Pop explicitly stated that increased 3s were a priority.
The bench should increase their opportunities with West being gone and having PnR divers replacing him.
sup 'Tres
I thought it was interesting that Pop explicitly stated that increased 3s were a priority.
Just another day in paradise. Hope the same for you.
It is interesting, but I'm glad he sees that its a need.
A big reason why the volume wasn't there last year is because of how West & Aldridge were implemented in the offense. Both of them are heavy pick and pop long 2 bigs, and both were staggered for 48 minutes on most occasion. Pick and pop long 2's reduces the amount of weakside open 3's because the weakside D is able to stay at home on shooters and don't have to worry about rotating over to defend the roll man or the man in the dunker spot. It also had a lot to do with Duncan and Diaws' regression. Duncan didn't set as many on ball screens because of Aldridge needing to get his PnPop long two touches by being the man setting the on ball screens. And whenever TD did attempt to roll after setting screens, he wasn't as fluid or effective diving or rolling after his injury ( same with Diaw).
Having Lee and Dedmon (once he gets right) rolling to the basket after the pick, will make the weakside D move again once they get the timing down. When the weakside defense has to move, that is when better shots are created, threes, lay ups and dunks. Whenever the defense has to be running around rotating, that's when passing becomes a more valuable weapon. The defense bends more and more with every pass, until it breaks. When it breaks is when an easy, efficient attempt arises. Last year, with the second unit, the ball movement was there -- it's just that the ball movement wasn't as effective when the ball was swung to the weakside because the weakside was usually guarded by balanced defenders that never had to "bend" or become off-balanced.
I'm hoping Dedmon gets more confident and comfortable. Him and Lees' skill-set should help Bertans, Mills, Manu, Green and Kawhi get better and more frequent looks from three.
Pop says this, yet they construct the team in such a way to where it's difficult to imagine that happening. Even if Green bounces back and Aldridge gets closer to what he did in '14-'15, Leonard and Ginobili are unlikely to repeat what they did and Bertans is unlikely to be in the rotation.
Well, Pop said he wants the guys to increase the number of 3-point attempts but didn't affirm that will be work/be effective...
I have noticed a lot more PnR and less post up, but for all the talk about LMA and Pau 3, they still haven't been firing the 3. Also Bertans, when he has played in better lineups doesn't get good looks bc he's not spotted up, instead he's screening near the foul line. It is early in the season and things can get tweaked, like how and where bigs sets screens, etc.
Playing snipers usually means more 3 pt shooting and with having Kawhi handling the ball, guys like Tony probably have to take more (though I haven't seen it) and Anderson is spotting up in different spots, but needs to be more trigger happy.
Simmons still passes up 3s, and he's open quite a bit. It's hard to judge right this moment bc it is early in the season and there are guys playing in the rotation right now that will get cut, so chemistry and maybe even sets are not run optimally.
Anyways, something to watch for the season. The deep bench reserves have been trigger happy from 3, but the regular lineups, not so much.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-17-2016 at 05:48 PM.
GSW are going to hit a ton of threes. Just getting two points in the paint won't keep up with their scoring. If the Spurs could field a line up that can defense and have 5 people that can hit the three, this would be a line up to use against GSW.
I haven't watched a single second of preseason basketball..does Bertans look good enough to be a rotation player, tbh?
Bertans is going to eat some PF minutes in night where one or two of the bigs just sucks and the very rare and few Anderson PF minutes.
He's been the most impressive newcomer...
He's got some chops, tbh. I can see Pop giving him some burn here, in his experimental phase and Bertans showing him more than he expected, more often than not.
Shoot, he might be a Bonner on steroids...
IMO I sit Lee and play Bertans. He has struggled defensively but has the tools to improve (he's got size and sufficient quickness, but often doesn't know what he's supposed to be doing and is not trying to stay in front of his guy but jumping on his feet in a reactionary way that leaves him open to changes of direction, etc. I will sum it up: he's not a SF. The crew that wants Kyle benched is barking up the wrong tree. He's not a SF.
But at the 4, he's a monster. A real monster, he has true size and is a pure sniper. He can be off like all shooters. He has had his nights with 1/4 or 1/5 shooting.. he's only shooting 30% from 3 in the preseason, but he can have nights like tonight (reminds me of icy hot) and bc he can get hot at any moment, and he doesn't pass up shots, you can't ignore him. You ignore him at your peril. If he gets hot, he can kill you bc at that point he will hit tough shots, off balance shots, etc.
I do think he will be the bench PF eventually. Him and Lee are night and day in terms of shooting and every perimeter player who has played with Lee has struggled with his lack of shooting. The Celtics Lee that clogged the paint and made it difficult for everyone around him (including himself) with his lack of shooting, is unjustifiable when you have Bertans.
That said Pop may shut my yap and go with Lee and screw us all over... but if he wants more 3 pt shooting he needs Bertans more.
Tonight, we finally saw Pau shooting 3's...Not bad at all. Getting him there spreading the floor creates so many options with his passing skill
Kyle shot some 3s too, made 2. Bertans went berserk and made 6. I'd like to see more of this for sure.
I know, only four games in the season but this looks too good to be ignored ...22 3PA.
LMA/Pau are hitting 3's with the SL...Just imagine if Kawhi/Danny get stroke back
Warriors shooting nearly 60% from two. Sure makes up partly for their cold 3pt shooting so far. Spurs struggling from two and getting outshot there by opponents. Hopefully gets better with sample size. Do like the higher distribution of three pointers .
It's an uptick, but we're still in the bottom half in attempts... that said, we've been missing one of our 3-pt specialists in Danny, so that might still go up a bit more.
Overall, looks like the league in general has leaned more on the 3 pointer, probably a byproduct of the Warriors runs the last few seasons.
Nice 3P% but the attempt rate could be better...
Spurs don't put 4 on the perimeter with Duncan like they did when they were leading the league in this stuff.
Good to great.
They aren't gonna beat the Dubs or Cavs in a three point shooting contest. Better to use their size advantage.
One of the main reasons why they're not equipped to beat either in a series. 28th in three-point attempts doesn't cut it. They're too prolific to be significantly suppressed; you have to be able to at least somewhat keep up.
We saw it in the 2 home games versus the Warriors last season. They defended them about as well as humanly possible, only to narrowly win the first (with the Warriors on a 2nd night of a back to back and missing Iguodala, Bogut and Ezeli) and narrowly lose the second, when they got hit with an inevitable few minute flurry.
You're overestimating the size advantage considering Gasol can barely play against either or the Rockets.
Eh, I don't think it's as much of an issue, this season..they have 3 high-volume, efficient 3-point shooters, which is good enough IMO..it would be nice if they get another hot shooter in the playoffs(Manu or Simmons), but I don't think it's going to make or break the season..
The only difference I'd like to see is getting Green more set plays for 3 like they used to in the pre-Aldridge days, tbh..he's shooting 43% from 3 on 4 3pa/game, I'd like to see it get to 5, as unlikely as that is(with all the mouths to feed on this team)..
It will be an issue vs. a team just as good ( Rockets) or a team that is better ( Warriors/Cavs). The team that can shoot 25-30 threes a night at a 37-40% + clip has a huge edge in a series from a PPP perspective.
Spurs need more volume from three, but I think the problem comes from not having a real playmaker on the perimeter that can get into the paint consistently without a fight
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