Captain America : Civil War

[Blake]

He blackmailed Superman into fighting a Batman, who already wanted to kill him for reasons Lex set up, by kidnapping Superman's mother. He was the one building the tension for most of the movie, so it wasn't like a random plan at the end like it was in CW. Like had all the Avengers or really just anyone who else besides the three who showed up (not counting BP), there wouldn't have even been a fight. The group would have held Stark down, or in the very least, there would just be those two duking it out. There was no way that was going to result in the Avengers killing each other.

It's funny, it seems like everyone else seems to think that batman/supes plot was stupid while civil war was decent.

Go figure.

[Trainwreck2100]

It's funny, it seems like everyone else seems to think that batman/supes plot was stupid while civil war was decent.

Go figure.

Civil war had comic relief BVS was serious the whole ing time, nobody goes to comic book movies to be serious.

[TheyCallMePro]

Another piece of Marvel garbage that's meant for 12 year old's but for some reason grown men go to see. PG 13 garbage.

[Xevious]

He blackmailed Superman into fighting a Batman, who already wanted to kill him for reasons Lex set up, by kidnapping Superman's mother. He was the one building the tension for most of the movie, so it wasn't like a random plan at the end like it was in CW. Like had all the Avengers or really just anyone who else besides the three who showed up (not counting BP), there wouldn't have even been a fight. The group would have held Stark down, or in the very least, there would just be those two duking it out. There was no way that was going to result in the Avengers killing each other.

Cap and Iron Man already had established tension from prior movies, so that part of it felt a little more organic though. The airport fight was pretty gratuitous admittedly, but still fun to watch.

[blkroadrunners]

For the people questioning why ant man was on team cap, remember caps team was assembled to fight the 5 super soldiers not the avengers. Falcon recommends to use him because the heaviest hitters signed the accords

So maybe I missed it but what was the point in Zemo killing the super soldiers where he could have released them while Cap/Bucky and Iron Man were fighting

[Pelicans78]

So maybe I missed it but what was the point in Zemo killing the super soldiers where he could have released them while Cap/Bucky and Iron Man were fighting

Basically he felt they were monsters and didn't want to release them because they could do as much as damage as the Avengers do.

[lefty]

Basically he felt they were monsters and didn't want to release them because they could do as much as damage as the Avengers do.

Yup

[lefty]

Except Cap and Stark actually had a legit reason to fight. And the fight wasnt called off because their moms had the same name

"Your mom's name is Sarah and not Maria ????
I'm gonn kick your ass ! "


Sidenote : Tomei is a pretty hot milf

[cd021]

saw it yesterday morning fantastic. I prefer the captain America movies over any of the other MCU franchises and the X-Men and Batman trilogy. The black panther looked cool as , though I wish they had kept Garfield as Spider-man, I liked his take better than Holland and McGuire. Felt that the movie was well done and was impressed how all of the story lines interlocked and make were wrapped up by the end with out feeling too forced and without the movie dragging on to cram it into the ending.

[cd021]

Civil war had comic relief BVS was serious the whole ing time, nobody goes to comic book movies to be serious.

It was a bit lighter than BVS but I did not laugh at it, not to say that I did not enjoy CACW. BVS reminded me of the Fantastic Four, way too serious. Even the Dark Night had some dark comedy, thanks to Ledger.

[cd021]

Yeah, every time black widow got up after taking a beating, belief was suspended.

I liked the opening fight scenes with her but I tend to question Scar Jo as the black window. She frequently over acts after stunt, that she did not do. It is really noticeable in Iron Man 2. They don't show her face during a stunt but they show her landing in an over the top fashion, just a pet peeve of mine.

[cd021]

I think they pretty much have to. Some of these characters are going to have to die or retire if Marvel plans on keeping the MCU going indefinitely. These actors aren't going to stick around forever, and I don't think audiences are going to maintain interest if they recast people like Tony Stark. I said this in the other thread, but Evans is signed on through Infinity Wars, Stan is signed on for much longer. So if I had to guess, Rogers is going to die at some point and Bucky will take up the shield.

Marvel has done a good job filtering in new characters slowly and building up this universe, so I feel like it could survive a few deaths.

Didn't Falcon become Captain American as well? I would much rather see him than Bucky, Mackey has much more charisma.

[cd021]

Lol it sucked, Winter Soldier was much better Haven't seen Antman, but I thought his lines were funny I liked Peter Parker, and I guess Spider-Man was faithful to the comics. He just wasn't funny though. Wish his in battle remarks were written a bit better.

I like Garfield much better, he was a bit of but charming at the same time. Wish he could have been in it but Holland was ok, could have been better. Winter Soldier is probably my second favorite superhero movie behind this one. the first 45 minutes of CAWS were terrific.

[Chinook]

Cap and Iron Man already had established tension from prior movies, so that part of it felt a little more organic though. The airport fight was pretty gratuitous admittedly, but still fun to watch.

The "established tension" was nothing. They were friends who had conflicting personalities. That's life. Batman saw Superman as an alien who could destroy the world or even worse, kill a bunch of people by accident. Superman thought Batman was a vigilante who had lost touch with right and wrong. It made sense that both not only disliked the other but that both would feel it was their duty to stop the other.

[Blake]

The "established tension" was nothing. They were friends who had conflicting personalities. That's life. Batman saw Superman as an alien who could destroy the world or even worse, kill a bunch of people by accident.

all you got from CW was that it was just friends who had conflicting personalities?

Lol are you sure you saw the movie?

Spoiler. ...



























Cause that whole scarlet witch thing in the beginning where she killed a bunch of people by accident. ...

[KobeOwnsDuncan]

The "established tension" was nothing. They were friends who had conflicting personalities. That's life. Batman saw Superman as an alien who could destroy the world or even worse, kill a bunch of people by accident. Superman thought Batman was a vigilante who had lost touch with right and wrong. It made sense that both not only disliked the other but that both would feel it was their duty to stop the other.

And they literally actually fought for 2 seconds in the movie before "Martha"

[Chinook]

all you got from CW was that it was just friends who had conflicting personalities?

Lol are you sure you saw the movie?

Spoiler. ...



























Cause that whole scarlet witch thing in the beginning where she killed a bunch of people by accident. ...

You need to go back and read the conversation into which you jumped. We were talking about before this movie.

[Chinook]

And they literally actually fought for 2 seconds in the movie before "Martha"

Um... That movie must have been like 10 seconds long for you then.

[Blake]

You need to go back and read the conversation into which you jumped. We were talking about before this movie.

Neh, I'm discussing exactly what you posted right there. If you're done then you can go yourself. Makes no difference to me.

I'm just loling at you going against the grain.

[jeebus]

Civil war had comic relief BVS was serious the whole ing time, nobody goes to comic book movies to be serious.

BvS was trying too hard to be like Nolan's ty awful Batman movies. lets make it dark and gritty! that'll show Marvel how to do things!

[Chinook]

He blackmailed Superman into fighting a Batman, who already wanted to kill him for reasons Lex set up

Cap and Iron Man already had established tension from prior movies

The "established tension" was nothing.

[QUOTE=Blake;8588497]all you got from CW was that it was just friends who had conflicting personalities?

You need to go back and read the conversation into which you jumped. We were talking about before this movie.

Neh, I'm discussing exactly what you posted right there.

You're clearly not discussing what I was saying. You're just being an idiot.

If you're done then you can go yourself. Makes no difference to me.

You say that so often when you find yourself making a gaffe. You just can't admit when you make a mistake. It's pathetic.

[hitmanyr2k]

The "established tension" was nothing. They were friends who had conflicting personalities. That's life. Batman saw Superman as an alien who could destroy the world or even worse, kill a bunch of people by accident. Superman thought Batman was a vigilante who had lost touch with right and wrong. It made sense that both not only disliked the other but that both would feel it was their duty to stop the other.

Cmon, let's not excuse the stupidity and laziness of how their pathetic fight was set up. First of all Superman shows no "dislike" for Batman at all. He's concerned but hardly "outraged" at what Batman is doing. And they hardly say a word to each other. Superman and Batman share the goddamn screen for the first time EVER and it's wasted on the dumbest dialogue possible that a in 6 year old could write.

"The Bat is dead, bury it"
"Do you bleed?"

Who writes this stuff? And the worst part of it all is Batman was chasing guys blowing all to before he was stopped but Superman just gives those guys a pass because they're obviously just having kicks on a Friday night, with mini-guns And right before they fight Superman doesn't give two s about Batman. He doesn't care where Batman is. He doesn't care what Batman is doing. The only reason they fight is because Lex kidnaps Supe's mommy, gives him the villain monologue and forces him into it. There's no tension whatsoever. It's just two idiots fighting in the rain because Superman can't find the time or patience to get it through Batman's skull that he's being forced into this even though he has plenty of chances. The whole fight was set up in the most moronic way possible.

[Blake]

You're clearly not discussing what I was saying. You're just being an idiot.

You say that so often when you find yourself making a gaffe. You just can't admit when you make a mistake. It's pathetic.

You said it was "just friends who had conflicting personalities" while batman thought superman would destroy innocent lives.

It's right there.

Pretend like you were talking about something else though.

And then yourself.

[spurraider21]

Saw the movie last night. Thought it was a lot of fun, better than avengers 2. Action sequences were great.

The main complaint I had was how ironman was baited into fighting bucky literally right after the bad guy tells them his exact plan. I get that stark is emotional about daddy stuff but that was a bit much. And like Chinook said, if more, less, or other avengers showed up the plan just wouldn't have made sense.

But again, I'm going into these movies to be entertained and it did a great job of that. People complaining about like "why doesn't scarlet witch just slam everyone through the ground" are just people who apparently want to watch a really boring movie with no conflict or tension

[djohn2oo8]

slightly off topic, but Michael B Jordan has been added to the cast of Black Panther as a villian