Benson, San Antonio officials impressed with fans' support

[j-6]

People love plucking numbers out their ass. Even though its been stated many times already that a study showed 150-200 million dollars worth of upgrades would make the Dome NFL ready.

Maybe, maybe not.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/f...260e14283.html

Benson declined to comment about a possible move to San Antonio, other than to say through a spokesman that he "has not spoken to anyone there, political or not, about the Saints."

Before any team seriously considers relocating to San Antonio, several hurdles would have to be overcome. The biggest obstacle would be bringing the Alamodome up to NFL standards, a project likely to cost close to $200 million.

According to a study commissioned by the city in 2001, the Alamodome is smaller by more than 200,000 square feet than 10 recently built NFL stadiums. It has far fewer luxury suites and premium club seats than other new NFL venues.

NFL insiders say the dome would need at least 120 to 140 suites and at least 10,500 club seats to generate enough revenue to lure a team.

The Alamodome has 38 finished suites, with space to build an additional 28, and more than 6,000 club/suite seats, with the ability to add 1,000 more.

The study estimated it could take nearly $140 million to overhaul the dome, a price tag that doesn't include the cost for construction of a training facility.

[John T]

Does anyone know how well the games in Baton Rouge are selling?

I just checked to see what was available for 2 seats together. I have no idea if they're holding the 32,000 season ticket holder seats (I think it's 32K) until 10 days prior to the game like they did for the games here. And I'm not sure how long ago they went on sale.

4-game tickets
Lover level/10 yard line/row Q

vs. Chicago Bears
Lower level/Goal line/row 55 (not sure why these are numbers not letters)

vs. Miami Dolphins
Lower level/corner section/row M


Oh, and thanks Truth for answering!

Carie

[Extra Stout]

$320 million for renovations when it costs $190M to build the Alamodome in the first place twelve years ago?

Look at how much Reliant Stadium cost ($450 million).

Look how much the new facility for the Cowboys in Arlington is costing ($650 million).

$300+ million in renovations is comparatively cheap these days.

But this is how it always is with San Antonio. People and moan about how they deserve a team, but then when you show them the price tag, they get sticker shock.

[Clandestino]

how much did reliant cost? what about the new stadium up in dallas?

[Extra Stout]

if, if, if...

If San Antonio can beat L.A. to the punch in getting a deal done, more power to them.

The NFL wanted to expand to L.A., not Houston, in 2002. But a moneybags owner and a $450 million stadium, coupled with foot-dragging in L.A., changed those plans.

[SWC Bonfire]

Look at how much Reliant Stadium cost ($450 million).

Look how much the new facility for the Cowboys in Arlington is costing ($650 million).

$300+ million in renovations is comparatively cheap these days.

But this is how it always is with San Antonio. People and moan about how they deserve a team, but then when you show them the price tag, they get sticker shock.

Reliant Stadium is physically 3 times bigger than the Alamodome. Warehouses around the Alamodome aren't exactly priceless, either.

[Extra Stout]

People love plucking numbers out their ass. Even though its been stated many times already that a study showed 150-200 million dollars worth of upgrades would make the Dome NFL ready.

Upgrading the Dome by itself is not enough.

But, hey, if $200 million in taxpayer money is all it takes, then that referendum should pass easily, right?

Ask the Spurs about that.

[TheWriter]

Look at how much Reliant Stadium cost ($450 million).

Look how much the new facility for the Cowboys in Arlington is costing ($650 million).

$300+ million in renovations is comparatively cheap these days.

But this is how it always is with San Antonio. People and moan about how they deserve a team, but then when you show them the price tag, they get sticker shock.

Of course they're going to cost that must. It's like buying a new Lamborghini to get you to work. Flashy and very unnecessary. While your co-worker went out and bought a hybrid civic. San Antonio is buying the hybrid civic. Nothing fancy, good enough to get him to work.

The upgrades aren't major. No retractable roof being added. No new screens. No new section. Just more boxes and seats.

Simple.

[TheWriter]

Upgrading the Dome by itself is not enough.

But, hey, if $200 million in taxpayer money is all it takes, then that referendum should pass easily, right?

Ask the Spurs about that.

Yeah I will. Because it was a landslide victory.

[Extra Stout]

Reliant Stadium is physically 3 times bigger than the Alamodome. Warehouses around the Alamodome aren't exactly priceless, either.

Reliant Stadium was built on part of the Astrodome's parking lot. Harris County already owned the land.

[SWC Bonfire]

Reliant Stadium is physically 3 times bigger than the Alamodome

Concrete=Cost

[Extra Stout]

Yeah I will. Because it was a landslide victory.

That was a county election. Remember? Remember how the city couldn't get a proposal for a downtown arena done? Remember how you personally ed about that when you weren't trying to fulfill your NFL wet dream?

[TheWriter]

That was a county election. Remember? Remember how the city couldn't get a proposal for a downtown arena done? Remember how you personally ed about that when you weren't trying to fulfill your NFL wet dream?

You do know the Spurs (peter holt) turned down the cities offer to build an arena downtown because he didn't want the Riverwalk selling from his concession revenue.

[Extra Stout]

Of course they're going to cost that must. It's like buying a new Lamborghini to get you to work. Flashy and very unnecessary. While your co-worker went out and bought a hybrid civic. San Antonio is buying the hybrid civic. Nothing fancy, good enough to get him to work.

The upgrades aren't major. No retractable roof being added. No new screens. No new section. Just more boxes and seats.

Simple.

Except it's a lot easier to get your rich neighbor to fork over $150,000 for a new Lamborghini than it is for a Honda Civic hybrid.

You act as if San Antonio is doing the NFL a favor by offering to let it relocate a team there.

[j-6]

Look at how much Reliant Stadium cost ($450 million).

Look how much the new facility for the Cowboys in Arlington is costing ($650 million).

$300+ million in renovations is comparatively cheap these days.

But this is how it always is with San Antonio. People and moan about how they deserve a team, but then when you show them the price tag, they get sticker shock.

(proposed/under construction) Arlington Stadium, DAL- $650M

Lincoln Financial Field, PHI - $512M

Ford Field, DET - $500M

Reliant Stadium, HOU - $450M

(proposed/under construction)Minneapolis Stadium, MIN - $450M

(proposed/under construction) New Orleans Stadium, NO - $450M

(proposed/under construction) San Diego Stadium, SD - $400M

Gillette Stadium, NE - $397M

INVESCO Field at Mile High, DEN -$364M

Qwest Field, SEA - $360M

(proposed/under construction) Glendale Stadium, ARI - $355M

Heinz Field, PIT - $280M

[Vashner]

I think we could always throw some money at the dome and convert the club level to an all executive suits on the sidelines.

Among other things.. Without rebuilding it.

The 2 new giant screens where awesome....

[TheWriter]

(proposed/under construction) Arlington Stadium, DAL- $650M

Lincoln Financial Field, PHI - $512M

Ford Field, DET - $500M

Reliant Stadium, HOU - $450M

(proposed/under construction)Minneapolis Stadium, MIN - $450M

(proposed/under construction) New Orleans Stadium, NO - $450M

(proposed/under construction) San Diego Stadium, SD - $400M

Gillette Stadium, NE - $397M

INVESCO Field at Mile High, DEN -$364M

Qwest Field, SEA - $360M

(proposed/under construction) Glendale Stadium, ARI - $355M

Heinz Field, PIT - $280M

Ohmigod! Arizona didn't spend 600 million.

Holy shiznit! Pittsburgh is only spending 280 million, not 500 or 600 or 700!!!??

How can they support a team? How can they make it work?

The madness Extra.

[Extra Stout]

Ohmigod! Arizona didn't spend 600 million.

Holy shiznit! Pittsburgh is only spending 280 million, not 500 or 600 or 700!!!??

How can they support a team? How can they make it work?

The madness Extra.

Read my last post, dip .

I said $300 million when it's all said and done is relatively cheap to get an NFL team.

Besides, those places already have teams. San Antonio is trying to attract one. It should expect to pay more.

But, hey, if the price tag is in the ballpark of $200 million plus infrastructure improvements plus incentive packages (in other words, $300 million), then let's see San Antonio go ahead and get that done.

I'm sure C.O.P.S. and their cohorts will have no problem with that.

I'm guessing you won't be interested in arguing the point anymore and will go off on some tangent.

[TheWriter]

300 million to upgrade the dome, no.