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    Bertans should be taking Kyle's minutes.

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    Bertans should be taking Kyle's minutes.
    It is more like Lee has no minutes left.

    2nd team is Mills/Manu/Anderson/Bertans/Dedmon

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    He's got a ridiculously good shot. His only problem is he forces it too much .... however at his height, he's not going to get blocked!
    Well at the end he took a couple of contested ones, but he had already caught fire earlier in the game, and the other ones I saw were open, Lee couldn't guard him in the PnP and close out to him quick enough. Dijon is incredibly quick and you have to help on him. The Dijon/Bertans PnP is very tough to defend for anybody TBH. Only thing you can do is put a defender on Dijon that will make him TO the ball, which Forbes and crew were not going to do.

    I see potential in the Spurs youngins.

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    It is more like Lee has no minutes left.

    2nd team is Mills/Manu/Anderson/Bertans/Dedmon
    Aww well, the Kyle hate crew won't shut up about it, but that lineup is the one I would roll with.

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    Bertans should be taking Kyle's minutes.
    I disagreed with SAGirls post that his play would bench Lee. Lee will still do other things despite the fact he isn't a shooter, that that 2nd unit lacks.

    It'll be interesting to see come Feb/March what rotation Pop goes with. Cause there is so much speculation now, but I'd be shocked if Pop even knows what he wants to do yet

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    Also, it's 1 thing playing a pressure free game against your team. Guys who played well tonight need to prove themselves against other teams

    There's just too much overreaction to these games in Sept/Oct when we should really evaluate in Jan/Feb.

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    So no LMA or Simmons?

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    Aww well, the Kyle hate crew won't shut up about it, but that lineup is the one I would roll with.
    Murray, Leonard, Bertans, LJC and Dedmon was also one crazy long team that was fielded. The other team had a really hard time absent any passing lanes!

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    So no LMA or Simmons?
    Either these two were injured or a trade in the works.

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    I disagreed with SAGirls post that his play would bench Lee. Lee will still do other things despite the fact he isn't a shooter, that that 2nd unit lacks.

    It'll be interesting to see come Feb/March what rotation Pop goes with. Cause there is so much speculation now, but I'd be shocked if Pop even knows what he wants to do yet
    I have only ever said, Lee's lack of shooting is a problem is he's played as a 4. You just can't play him at that spot. It's caused Lee himself benchings in the league b4 and Spurs are no magicians. If he's not taking a jumpshot--- I didn't see any here by the way, in fact I saw him open and put the ball on the floor to try to post up Bertans, and fail--- you can't play him as a 4, except you know garbage time, like Livio, who I did see hit a wide open midrange jumper by the way. Or he could be a mini small ball 5. I have only seen him be that with Pau. Only way it works.

    I will be honest, I just don't like that he can't shoot. It makes life difficult for everyone else. It makes the team TO the ball, it makes it tough for others to get to the paint etc.. in general his defender is allowed to roam and help on others, and Lee himself is easy to defend bc he's not a threat to shoot. Just terrible. Every group I have seen him play with will struggle bc of his lack of shooting. Meantime teams playing with Bertans can swing the ball around and are very difficult to defend.

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    He's got a ridiculously good shot. His only problem is he forces it too much .... however at his height, he's not going to get blocked!

    You think he's taking a lot of shots that he should pass up? And do you think he's a shot hog, or just not always sure yet where/who to pass to?

    As well as he strokes them, I'd think he is one of those guys Pop gives a green light. Diaw used to make me ape- crazy passing up wide open 3's. I think I'd rather have Bertans take a few lightly contested 3's than to pass up shots like Boris did.

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    I have only ever said, Lee's lack of shooting is a problem is he's played as a 4. You just can't play him at that spot. It's caused Lee himself benchings in the league b4 and Spurs are no magicians. If he's not taking a jumpshot--- I didn't see any here by the way, in fact I saw him open and put the ball on the floor to try to post up Bertans, and fail--- you can't play him as a 4, except you know garbage time, like Livio, who I did see hit a wide open midrange jumper by the way. Or he could be a mini small ball 5. I have only seen him be that with Pau. Only way it works.

    I will be honest, I just don't like that he can't shoot. It makes life difficult for everyone else. It makes the team TO the ball, it makes it tough for others to get to the paint etc.. in general his defender is allowed to roam and help on others, and Lee himself is easy to defend bc he's not a threat to shoot. Just terrible. Every group I have seen him play with will struggle bc of his lack of shooting. Meantime teams playing with Bertans can swing the ball around and are very difficult to defend.
    I agree with you here that Lee is a liability if he can't shoot. I would rather go with Anthony.

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    You think he's taking a lot of shots that he should pass up? And do you think he's a shot hog, or just not always sure yet where/who to pass to?

    As well as he strokes them, I'd think he is one of those guys Pop gives a green light. Diaw used to make me ape- crazy passing up wide open 3's. I think I'd rather have Bertans take a few lightly contested 3's than to pass up shots like Boris did.
    He's not shy about taking the shot.

    I don't know yet if he can get better, but he did take several shots where he was covered. He also took a couple of them off balance... some of those went in!

    I just think thought that some of those off balance shots were way off and he should not have forced them.

    My only real gripe is the off balance shots. I think the shots where there's a man guarding is actually fine considering he's tall enough to get it off without a real contest. It's kind of like Durant's shot. You can't really contest it.

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    You think he's taking a lot of shots that he should pass up? And do you think he's a shot hog, or just not always sure yet where/who to pass to?

    As well as he strokes them, I'd think he is one of those guys Pop gives a green light. Diaw used to make me ape- crazy passing up wide open 3's. I think I'd rather have Bertans take a few lightly contested 3's than to pass up shots like Boris did.
    I think he's taking the shots he should. A shooter, like him, should throw up some mildly contested shots. Especially at his height and with his superior form.

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    I have only ever said, Lee's lack of shooting is a problem is he's played as a 4. You just can't play him at that spot. It's caused Lee himself benchings in the league b4 and Spurs are no magicians. If he's not taking a jumpshot--- I didn't see any here by the way, in fact I saw him open and put the ball on the floor to try to post up Bertans, and fail--- you can't play him as a 4, except you know garbage time, like Livio, who I did see hit a wide open midrange jumper by the way. Or he could be a mini small ball 5. I have only seen him be that with Pau. Only way it works.

    I will be honest, I just don't like that he can't shoot. It makes life difficult for everyone else. It makes the team TO the ball, it makes it tough for others to get to the paint etc.. in general his defender is allowed to roam and help on others, and Lee himself is easy to defend bc he's not a threat to shoot. Just terrible. Every group I have seen him play with will struggle bc of his lack of shooting. Meantime teams playing with Bertans can swing the ball around and are very difficult to defend.
    Lee is similar to Tiago, his bread & butter is PnRs + occasionally postups/offensive rebounds.

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    Lee is similar to Tiago, his bread & butter is PnRs + occasionally postups/offensive rebounds.
    Just without the, you know, superior screens and good help/post defense...

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    Lee is similar to Tiago, his bread & butter is PnRs + occasionally postups/offensive rebounds.
    You can't play a guy like that if the other big doesn't shoot. The only big who could shoot in this crew was Pau. Every other time it was trouble.

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    I have only ever said, Lee's lack of shooting is a problem is he's played as a 4. You just can't play him at that spot. It's caused Lee himself benchings in the league b4 and Spurs are no magicians. If he's not taking a jumpshot--- I didn't see any here by the way, in fact I saw him open and put the ball on the floor to try to post up Bertans, and fail--- you can't play him as a 4, except you know garbage time, like Livio, who I did see hit a wide open midrange jumper by the way. Or he could be a mini small ball 5. I have only seen him be that with Pau. Only way it works.

    I will be honest, I just don't like that he can't shoot. It makes life difficult for everyone else. It makes the team TO the ball, it makes it tough for others to get to the paint etc.. in general his defender is allowed to roam and help on others, and Lee himself is easy to defend bc he's not a threat to shoot. Just terrible. Every group I have seen him play with will struggle bc of his lack of shooting. Meantime teams playing with Bertans can swing the ball around and are very difficult to defend.

    I think if people would go look at his old stats they would understand better what you are talking about. He's always been pretty damned bad outside of about 6-7 feet. Most of the shot charts show 0-3 feet and 3-10 feet. His 3-10 numbers look adequate, but not great. But what they don't show is that he's a LOT better from 3-6 than from 6-10.

    Because of that, he really needs to be at the 5 and not the 4. And he's really not tall enough to play C against full-sized big men. Kanter and Adams would have really had a field day with him.

    He's scrappy as , and when he can get his shot up around the rim he finishes pretty damned well. But his height is a problem. I think he's better suited to a wide-open offense, and not so much a team that grinds it out in half court sets. But as of right now, I see him getting minutes at the C, because Bertans doesn't have experience rooting for position in the paint, LJC looks like a scarecrow, and Joel Anthony is Joel Anthony. He's not good on D - he just isn't. But I think he can still score against a lot of bench bigs, and this bench is going to need some scoring.

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    You can't play a guy like that if the other big doesn't shoot. The only big who could shoot in this crew was Pau. Every other time it was trouble.
    Especially when said player lacks the, you know, superior screens and good help/post defense of a Tiago Splitter...
    Whoa! I feel a glitch in the Matrix!

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    Just without the, you know, superior screens and good help/post defense...

    LMAO. Perfect!

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