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    In the sense that he is not an ideologue nor is he a true Republican, I hope that he will put the country first - not party, not donors and not any crazy ideas.
    I have a feeling he will.

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    No, the likes of Hillary are the racists. They think that people of color need help because of their color. This is the very definition of racism, thinking one race is superior or inferior to another.

    The Donald wants a level playing field. He wants to end favoritism

    It is nice he isn't afraid to speak his mind. People should like him for that, and hate those like Hillary who lie through their teeth for votes.

    Generally, you get those charismatic people who win elections. Like HS class leaders. They are voter for by popularity, bit intelligence.

    How often is the class president the same as the valedictorian? Almost never, and also almost never part of the same clique.

    I have been rather calm and relaxed after Trump won. I see no impending liberal givaways in the next for years.
    Actually, my class president was. Really cool guy too. I resent that statement.

    As for minorities - it is about money. Only money. If blacks suddenly owned white wealth, youd have a lot of new black cops and disproportionate white killings in a decade or two at most.

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    Actually, my class president was. Really cool guy too. I resent that statement.

    As for minorities - it is about money. Only money. If blacks suddenly owned white wealth, youd have a lot of new black cops and disproportionate white killings in a decade or two at most.
    I doubt that. The money doesn't create a different history for blacks in the US nor does it bridge the population gap. Until folks acknowledge the cultural differences between sections of the US, they won't be able to peacefully co-exist. You aren't going to buy the culture out of folks.

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    I doubt that. The money doesn't create a different history for blacks in the US nor does it bridge the population gap. Until folks acknowledge the cultural differences between sections of the US, they won't be able to peacefully co-exist. You aren't going to buy the culture out of folks.
    Sure, thered be superficial and incredibly distracting differences of cultural nuance. But without the income to pay a fine, make bail, hire an experienced attorney, buy property in better testing school districts, white people would soon become perhaps even easier targets post-2008 working class blacks have unfortunately become. Additionally, after two decades of such a hypothetical transfer of wealth one assumes that largely disproportionate representation of blacks would be at least beginning to occur within many of the nation's branches of law enforcement since it would be mostly black neighborhoods, black school districts, and black businesses that needed protection. Jm2c

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    Sure, thered be superficial and incredibly distracting differences of cultural nuance. But without the income to pay a fine, make bail, hire an experienced attorney, buy property in better testing school districts, white people would soon become perhaps even easier targets post-2008 working class blacks have unfortunately become. Additionally, after two decades of such a hypothetical transfer of wealth one assumes that largely disproportionate representation of blacks would be at least beginning to occur within many of the nation's branches of law enforcement since it would be mostly black neighborhoods, black school districts, and black businesses that needed protection. Jm2c
    Not true. There's not enough blacks to have the "mostly" aspect you mention. They are 12% or so of the population. You'd have chaos when the overwhelmingly large majority of your populace is poor. 64% or so of the US is white. Imagine having a poverty level of 64%. You'd have Africa where ~50% of the population is poor. Right now USA has about 13% or so at the poverty level, so flip that to 65% and see what happens. While it's true that blacks have a larger poor percentage than whites (almost double), it doesn't make up for the population gap.

    It's not as easy as putting the shoe on the other foot, and it's not as if all whites are wealthy. There are just more wealthy whites than wealthy blacks, but there are also more poor whites than poor blacks.

    The goal, I think, is to get the black poverty level in line with whites, and not by creating more poor whites but by creating a culture that inspires and promotes success from within a cultural group instead of applying outside pressure that doesn't really do anything but create a wider wall between groups.

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    Not true. There's not enough blacks to have the "mostly" aspect you mention. They are 12% or so of the population. You'd have chaos when the overwhelmingly large majority of your populace is poor. 64% or so of the US is white. Imagine having a poverty level of 64%. You'd have Africa where ~50% of the population is poor. Right now USA has about 13% or so at the poverty level, so flip that to 65% and see what happens. While it's true that blacks have a larger poor percentage than whites (almost double), it doesn't make up for the population gap.

    It's not as easy as putting the shoe on the other foot, and it's not as if all whites are wealthy. There are just more wealthy whites than wealthy blacks, but there are also more poor whites than poor blacks.
    If all white wealth - 64% of the nation's gross assets, using your numbers - were transfered to 13% of the population, that portion of the population would on average have much higher wealth per household. If the hypothetical question is an evenly distributed percentage of wealth per some unit of measurement rather than a x for y transfer, yeah I see your point.

    FWIW, I purposely intended the scenario to be extreme for the sake of highlighting my opinion that wealth is much more important for your rights in this country than any other single factor.

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    If all white wealth - 64% of the nation's gross assets, using your numbers - were transfered to 13% of the population, that portion of the population would on average have much higher wealth per household. If the hypothetical question is an evenly distributed percentage of wealth per some unit of measurement rather than a x for y transfer, yeah I see your point.

    FWIW, I purposely intended the scenario to be extreme for the sake of highlighting my opinion that wealth is much more important for your rights in this country than any other single factor.
    Of course. Your ability to defend your rights has always been the reason we still have any.

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    still though, fake news is a thing... people are spreading a video of a mall in egypt and saying "look at all these muslims in sweden attacking a christmas tree"

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    thats about as bad as Brian Williams lecturing about "fake news", these ers have no shame.

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    When did we become enemies with Russia? If someone said Hillary was friends with the President of Mexico, no one would raise an eyebrow.

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