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  1. #101
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    Already reduced to semantics arguments

    Just give it up already, you've lost the debate.
    You said empty gym, then you said bring a teammate in.

    In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.

    How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.

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    In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.
    Which is why you don't dribble.

    How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.
    At no point in an actual basketball game does the league roll out racks full of balls and tell the best shooter on either team that they have a minute to score as many points as they can from beyond the arc. So no, taking away the defense alone does not leave you with three-point shooting contest rules.

    It's re ed to judge players' ability based on a meaningless gimmicky contest during All-Star Weekend than on what actually happens in games that count.

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    How would the gym be empty if he brings in a teammate?
    And, but and or will get you very far. Is Engrish not your 1st language?

    Conjunction junction, what's your function?

    Hooking up words and phrases and clauses...


    This OR that, not this AND that.

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    You said empty gym, then you said bring a teammate in.

    In a three point shooting contest, you can dribble the ball, you just lose time doing it.



    How? You remove the defense, and it's 3 pt shooting contest rules.
    .. so there's rebounding, head fakes, step backs and spot ups? Is there a 24 second shot clock? Can you run up and take the shot off a pass?

    amb

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    I wonder how they select the contestants though.
    Does their performance in the 3P contest correlate decently well with their 3P% in the season? Idk, maybe it does, just wondering.

    And sometimes they don't choose the best shooters. Will Green or Leonard be chosen this year?

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    And, but and or will get you very far. Is Engrish not your 1st language?

    Conjunction junction, what's your function?

    Hooking up words and phrases and clauses...


    This OR that, not this AND that.
    Grammar warrior. :worthy.

    And no, English isn't my 1st language. It's actually a horrible language full of exceptions and is essentially a bas of multiple other languages. But I can see why it's something you seem to be the proudest of.

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    .. so there's rebounding, head fakes, step backs and spot ups? Is there a 24 second shot clock? Can you run up and take the shot off a pass?

    amb
    You can do all of those in the contest.

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    Which is why you don't dribble.


    At no point in an actual basketball game does the league roll out racks full of balls and tell the best shooter on either team that they have a minute to score as many points as they can from beyond the arc. So no, taking away the defense alone does not leave you with three-point shooting contest rules.

    It's re ed to judge players' ability based on a meaningless gimmicky contest during All-Star Weekend than on what actually happens in games that count.
    You mean they are not totally exactly the same and thus can't be compared directly? Like how the perimeter defense rules and generally offensive philosophies are different between eras which means a definitive conclusion of which players are better is impossible due to the different cir stances using that logic.

    You either take the l here or stop with you cross era comparisons from this point on then.

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    Grammar warrior. :worthy.

    And no, English isn't my 1st language. It's actually a horrible language full of exceptions and is essentially a bas of multiple other languages. But I can see why it's something you seem to be the proudest of.
    Yet here you are using an argument that disregards the rules of language, as if "or" doesn't have a logical function.

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    You can do all of those in the contest.
    This isn't a language issue. This is you being stupid.

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    Google is my overlord. All hail google.

    today's kids.
    I've studied English for years, that's why I'm bilingual. You can't find "how they meant" in books either.

    Still didn't answer the question. Your second sentence essentially negated the purpose of the first sentence, and they were back to back, thus they were poorly constructed because there was no flow to any logic.
    No, my second sentence didn't negate the fist one. If you can't realize that it's your problem son, not mine. I have already explained to you what those two sentences meant, tbh.

    I thought DMC and Clipper Nation was talking about something around moving goal posts, you might want to check with them what the goal post is for a thread that was led "3pt contest ...."
    I didn't move any goalpost, since my first post in this thread I've been talking about "in-game 3pt shooting". If you didn't want to talk about that you shouldn't have quoted my comment.

    And you are the sole person to determine that. Put that on your resume, it is quite an accomplishment.
    When you are sure about who you are, you don't reassurance from others, tbh.

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    DMC, CN and Daf on this page

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    Yet here you are using an argument that disregards the rules of language, as if "or" doesn't have a logical function.
    So a gym can be empty or not-empty when it's an empty gym. Brilliant logic.

    This isn't a language issue. This is you being stupid.
    It could be done, and yet they were not done, I guess why ... Perhaps your self proclaimed superior intelligence can try to think down those lines and guess what the argument is.

    I've studied English for years, that's why I'm bilingual. You can't find "how they meant" in books either.
    You have been studied for years, that's why you are bisexual.

    No, my second sentence didn't negate the fist one. If you can't realize that it's your problem son, not mine. I have already explained to you what those two sentences meant, tbh.
    Of course it does. The second sentence renders the first question meaningless.

    I didn't move any goalpost, since my first post in this thread I've been talking about "in-game 3pt shooting". If you didn't want to talk about that you shouldn't have quoted my comment.
    Too bad we have been talking about the 3 pt shooting contest all along.

    A: Amplifiers made 30 years ago are just as good as those today. look at these measurements.
    D: But the old amplifiers do not have the necessary outputs and power to drive modern speakers. I win.

    When you are sure about who you are, you don't reassurance from others, tbh.
    No wonder you have been trying hard to get reassurances.

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    One question though, if 3 pt shooting is so much better in today's NBA, why aren't the players shooting that much better in the 3 pt shootout?

    I mean, you are taking the variable of defense out as these are just players wide open shooting against time, and yet:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-Point_Contest

    Klay Thompson 27 / 34[c] 2016
    Stephen Curry 27 / 34[c] 2015
    Craig Hodges 25 / 30 1986
    Jason Kapono 25 / 30 2008
    Craig Hodges 24 / 30 1991
    Mark Price 24 / 30 1994
    Hubert Davis 24 / 30 1998
    Jason Kapono 24 / 30 2007
    Marco Belinelli 24[b] / 34[c] 2014
    Klay Thompson 24 / 34[c] 2015
    Stephen Curry 23 / 34[c] 2016

    And the points are just higher because there are 4 extra money balls. Percentage-wise, the highest percentages were:

    1986, 2008, 1991, 1994, 1998, 2007, 2016, 2015, 2014, 2015, 2016.

    All the ones in the 10s made it purely because of the extra money balls.

    Shouldn't they be shooting 80%+ like scrubs in the 90s (Hodges) and 00s (Kapono)?
    Surprisingly, none of these came during the brief time (95-97), the 3Pt line was shorter (22ft).

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    But I thought yesterday's shooters were just as good as today's, if not better? Why would they need to shorten the line to increase scoring? Today's shooters don't need a shortened three-point line.

    Also, at falling for the "Jordan retired" meme.
    Your question there is literally already answered in the one sentence you quoted.

    You're right though, today's scorers don't need a shortened 3pt line. . .or to ever be touched by the defense on the perimeter without a foul being called.

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