Woj: "Fear is he's (Kevin Durant) out months, not weeks."

[coachmac87]

You're making a claim of significant increase in the Spurs chances of making the Finals.

I'm asking you how significant you think it is. Put a number on it.

For the 3rd time..my "significant claim" was regarding the tweet or le of this thread of him being out months:..

It's not that hard to understand tbh. Since he's not out months I'm not claiming anything significant but I do think it increases our odds a little especially if we get #1 seed.

[rastaspur]

Spurs still have the 4th toughest remaining schedule in the Legaue. Stealing the 1-seed won't be easy, as GS is still a great team w/o KD. Need to win all our remaining games against them. With that said, I think KD returns for the 1st round of the playoffs and this doesn't significantly affect them long-term.

They are. But k.d. has been their second best defender this year and given them so much versatility on matchups.

Defensively they are going to really struggle while he is out. That might very well allow the spurs to steal that top seed.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Who knows, but Love is injured and that's a big blow. Even though they added Korver, Deron & Bogut, Lebron has been complaining about their play/depth all year. Plus again, injuries happen (already did to Love and JR).

If you have a chance to build a team that can get to a CF or Final you do it.

Oh man, I totally forgot about Love being injured for some reason. Good call

[FvckMavs]

Zaza, throw your flopping asses to Curry's ankle next time.

[baseline bum]

This full strength argument is stupid. Virtually every team to win an NBA le has benefited hugely from injuries to another compe or. In recent memory:

2016 - Curry, Bogut
2015 - Irving, Love
2014 - Ibaka
2013 - Parker
2012 - Rose
2011 - <can't think of any>
2010 - Perkins
2009 - Garnett, Yao, McGrady
2008 - Bynum

[Blake]

For the 3rd time..my "significant claim" was regarding the tweet or le of this thread of him being out months:..

It's not that hard to understand tbh. Since he's not out months I'm not claiming anything significant but I do think it increases our odds a little especially if we get #1 seed.

OK, let's say he's out months. For the 3rd time, put a number on it. It's not hard to understand what I'm asking.

[Chucho]

Wow Woj bomb... I am speechless. I don't want bad karma so GWS Kd!

LOL. "Karma".

[Mnky]

Lol forget the #1 seed. Did everyone forget who our coach is?

Expect a loss today.

[DAF86]

This full strength argument is stupid. Virtually every team to win an NBA le has benefited hugely from injuries to another compe or. In recent memory:

2016 - Curry, Bogut
2015 - Irving, Love
2014 - Ibaka
2013 - Parker
2012 - Rose
2011 - <can't think of any>
2010 - Perkins
2009 - Garnett, Yao, McGrady
2008 - Bynum

2011 - Manu. The best player on the team with the best record, tbh.

[coachmac87]

OK, let's say he's out months. For the 3rd time, put a number on it. It's not hard to understand what I'm asking.

Before the injury I'd say Spurs had 25% of making Finals...
Rumor of him being out months or season I'd say Spurs had a 60%+ of making Finals...
With the 4-6 week injury status for KD I say Spurs chances of making Finals are 35%-40%

[baseline bum]

2011 - Manu. The best player on the team with the best record, tbh.

I'd never count that injury. The 2011 Spurs record was mostly based on destroying teams early in the season. By April that team looked completely out of gas and they'd have been an easy out for any contender in the west.

[spursistan]

Durant’s sprain is a Grade 2 injury, a more moderate sprain. In Grade 2 sprains, damage has occurred to the individual ligament fibers and is sometimes referred to as a partial or incomplete tear. Fortunately MCL sprains of this magnitude can heal without surgical intervention, especially if the medial meniscus remains uninvolved.

The tibia bone bruise will also play a role in his recovery. Bone contusions, especially in weight-bearing areas can be slow to repair and require ample time to appropriately heal. Bone injuries, particularly bone contusions, have been a problematic injury in the NBA this season.

[gambit1990]

this helps kawhi for mvp. now that the spurs are more likely to end up with the 1 seed than they were before.

[BatManu20]

this helps kawhi for mvp. now that the spurs are more likely to end up with the 1 seed than they were before.

I think Harden or Westbrook is basically a lock to win MVP tbh. Would take a massive shift for either not to win it imo.

[DAF86]

I'd never count that injury. The 2011 Spurs record was mostly based on destroying teams early in the season. By April that team looked completely out of gas and they'd have been an easy out for any contender in the west.

Manu was out on the only home game the Spurs lost (a very close one in which Manu would have surely made a difference, tbh). It's not a stretch to think the Spurs could have escaped the Grizzlies had Manu played the entire series.

Spurs were also 3-1 over the Mavs during that season, winning the last 3. Manu's injury might have changed the entire playoffs picture, tbh.

[gambit1990]

I think Harden or Westbrook is basically a lock to win MVP tbh. Would take a massive shift for either not to win it imo.

yeah, i've been under the impression that westbrook would win it since the summer.

[apalisoc_9]

Criminal how a no defense 7th seed and potentially 4th seed win MVP over s first seed with one all-star.

[baseline bum]

Manu was out on the only home game the Spurs lost (a very close one in which Manu would have surely made a difference, tbh). It's not a stretch to think the Spurs could have escaped the Grizzlies had Manu played the entire series.

Spurs were also 3-1 over the Mavs during that season, winning the last 3. Manu's injury might have changed the entire playoffs picture, tbh.

And the Spurs were 0-4 against OKC in 2014. The Spurs needed two lucky threes just to force a game 6 vs Memphis, so I don't buy they win that series if Manu plays game 1. That team was not playing good basketball to end the season and they all looked beaten up. I remember as the playoffs were approaching that year thinking the only WC team the Spurs would beat in a series would have been New Orleans.

[Blake]

Before the injury I'd say Spurs had 25% of making Finals...
Rumor of him being out months or season I'd say Spurs had a 60%+ of making Finals...
With the 4-6 week injury status for KD I say Spurs chances of making Finals are 35%-40%

There we go.

Lol if Vegas were to put this Spurs team at 60% even with Durant out, I'd put 1k on the Warriors......I'm guessing that would put them about 10-1 for a nice payout.

[Blake]

this helps kawhi for mvp. now that the spurs are more likely to end up with the 1 seed than they were before.

Except Westbrook and Harden

[DAF86]

And the Spurs were 0-4 against OKC in 2014. The Spurs needed two lucky threes just to force a game 6 vs Memphis, so I don't buy they win that series if Manu plays game 1. That team was not playing good basketball to end the season and they all looked beaten up. I remember as the playoffs were approaching that year thinking the only WC team the Spurs would beat in a series would have been New Orleans.

Yeah, bunch of "what ifs"; but you were listing meaningful injuries in the playoffs, if the injury of the best player on the team with the best record in the entire league is not a meaningful injury, I don't know what is, tbh.

[DPG21920]

"Just" a bone bruise is sort of misleading. A bone bruise means that part of the bone is fractured/crushed. Some bone bruises are worse than others, but they're all a lot more of a problem than a regular bruise - especially when they are at a joint. It's really important to give the bone time to completely regenerate before going back to full activity levels. He'll probably be back in time for the playoffs. But in a high impact area like the knee? If it was my future on the line, it would be six weeks. These guys may be Superman, but pounding a bone that hasn't fully regenerated is a good way to develop chronic problems.

Part of Manu's recurring problems stemmed from coming back too soon after a bone injury. His was the distal fibula, right where it joins with the ankle. Durant's is from trauma, and not over-use injury. I'm not wishing for him to miss the playoffs. If the Spurs can't beat the Dubs with Durant, then they aren't the best team. Just saying that "bone bruise" makes it sound a lot less serious than it is.

This is all more than fair. Was not trying to pass it off, meant fine in the context of the doom and gloom of his season being over.

[SpursforSix]

U srs or joking

It's based on my own advanced metrics. I don't think I'd be able to explain the math to you.

[Chinook]

This is all more than fair. Was not trying to pass it off, meant fine in the context of the doom and gloom of his season being over.

It might be crippled, though. GS doesn't have the easiest schedule as it is.

[spursistan]

That tibial bone could be a b*tch from what i have read...He won't be operating at 100% in coming few months, that's almost for sure..I would be shocked if KD returns before the end of regular season..I think they might even hold him out of 1st round if its Denver..