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chandler might have made lma happy but lma and chandler might have caused issue since chandler and lma were buds
I don't think people understand how little Simmons got.
chandler might have made lma happy but lma and chandler might have caused issue since chandler and lma were buds
You're assuming that he was inclined to come back to SA for that money. The reason why his agent asked him to be released is so SA couldn't match that deal.
deal seems ok I would like to know if it has a player option in after year 2 if he blows up and is better
holy crap, 100% spot-on.
There's a poster here that claims Paul is better on both ends. Who would've known we had posters watching random summer league games.
Really sux though. He was a two way player, even if not established yet. You couldn't hide a bad defender on him. Spurs could of made the deal and let him go for peanuts, relatively speaking. Gonna wait to see how Paul does and if we can anyone of note next year...
You obviously follow an unusual definition for the word impact.
Spurs did him a solid most other clubs wouldn't.........they allowed him the ability to go when & where he wanted to go. Usually plantation mentality people/orgs don't allow the commodity to make the final decision! Everything isn't for every one......... To many variables to consider.
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Only $20M? Damn.
For him, it was a load of money. But the fact that he won't be a Spur for $6.6M per year? That says that he either over-played his hand with the Spurs, or he didn't want to be here. I really think that after the playoffs, they would have matched 3/20 and called it a day.
All we have is rumors, but if you believe that it was his idea to have them pull his QO, then that's pretty much the conclusion. He wanted to sign a deal without the Spurs being able to match.
It will be interesting to see Simmons try to show up Kawhi with either a monster dunk or block.
And whether it's on Kawhi or whoever, to see him gloat/celebrate at Pop after he does it.
Lets be real people.....some of the same cats running their mouths about j simms this j simms that were bad mouthing the spurs signing him initially! Let this kid Paul get in here and see what type of impact he can make; perhaps we can help him make some money be it here or elsewhere.
What did the Spurs offer him again?
Spurs would have matched that. It seems like he wanted to leave and the Spurs did him a solid by renouncing him.
I can totally see that happening. Will likely be at the end of the 4th with his team down 20.
They probably would have matched that deal. But Simmons didn't want to stay. I am not sure he ever wanted to be in SA. He was likely happy for the check and had friends there and all. But he likely wasn't keen on having to fight for a rotation spot again, and he would have, especially with Gay back.
I just meant that Simmons got a deal for a bottom-half-of-the-roster player. In this market, I think the Spurs would be okay handing that out to an Anderson or Bertans next summer, probably even more, even without them being more than average bench guys.
Yep, he didn't wanna play for the Spurs anymore. Thanks Poo
Imo the Spurs don't want to give him 3 years guaranteed so his agent told them to whithdrawn their offer in order to get a better contract. Maybe the FO work with him on 1+1 in order to have cap space next year....
Th QO was pulled out bc his agent had made it clear he wanted out. He was going to sign with the highest bidder anywhere but the Spurs. I hardly think that is $ what he wanted. Rumors of 4 year deals, $50 million, then $40 million is what I have seen rumored. The Spurs best offered, per rumors was a moderate 9 mill per year, for 2 years with 1 year that I presume was a team option. He wanted more, tested the market, the market as we have seen wasn't at all what he (or many other agents let's be honest) expected. I think the ship finally really went south and things soured, when his agent was exploring potential sign and trades for Jsimms and after having reached an agreement in the Chandler/Simmons trade, the Spurs backed out at the 11th hour, I assume bc Joff Lauvergne became available all of a sudden at too cheap a deal to pass up on. considering that, Chandler in his contract for 2 seasons didn't make sense for the Spurs... they rejected that deal.. After that Simmons wanted out period.
Then you add in the fact that he maybe didn't have that strong an attachment to Pop and it's understandable.
Exactly....
https://www.basketball-reference.com...01&idx=players
How ever will the Spurs strike gold a third time?
Simmons probably thinks neither team is competing for a ring next year.
So he could be thinking
$6,000,000 in Florida > $9,000,000 San Antonio
Not a horrible deal but I mean, its not great either. My number was anything over 5.5 M a year would be too much. Anything over 6.5M would be not signable.
Best of luck to him. He wanted out and got his wish.
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