No - just semi automatics and tightening the licence controls.
Basically make it as hard as possible for any redneck, gang banger etc to legally purchase a gun.
There usually are.
That wouldn't have stopped this from happening since the shots came from a block away at a major hotel.
The only thing that would've prevented this particular tragedy is metal detectors and bag searches going into any high-rise hotel...and I don't see that happening ever.
yep lets stripe search everyone going into hotels now
people about the security now at the airports
I'm not saying that it's reasonable or warranted. I'm just saying that is the only way they would've caught this particular gunman.
well people go hunting the need to bring the rifles into hotel to spend the night
grant it you do not need 10 but still in vegas I would not want to leave a rifle in my car overnight
people will find things to kill people with if they make guns harder to get
in cal they made a pipe bomb, they have used buckets
there is no simple answer
and certain areas in country have highest gun control laws and most murders per year
think most people should not have a machine gun but the black market would sell them
A gang banger cant and wont purchase a firearm legally. If they have a criminal record they won't be walking out a gun store with a gun and also if they won't want anything to be traced back to them if they use it for illegal activity. And it seems like any gun advocate is called a redneck in these types of discussions. Many people just want a firearm for protection. Especially for home.
I agree. It's probably better in the hands of a responsible gun owner in their room than it is in someone's car where it could be stolen by a criminal.
That is assuming that the gun owner isn't a raving nutjob who is gonna open fire on a crowd of innocent people.
Unfortunately, there is no simple or easy solution that would have prevented this...short of making semi-automatic weapons more difficult or impossible to legally obtain. The common argument is "criminals will find a way", but it has been discovered that many of the weapons used in this case were bought legally and that Paddock passed all the background checks. There are also tons of loopholes to get around those as well (gun shows, private sales, etc...)
I don't know why people get to this level, but I do know that as long as people live to insult one another not in jest, but in earnest, then nothing will ever get better.
people should write people that make laws or go to meetings political meetings
"A lot of people on the left are saying, 'oh, if we only did this background check,'" Ingraham said of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock "He would have passed the background check. If we outlawed machine guns, very difficult to get. So that wouldn't have helped. And I saw them on networks this morning, what specifically would have stopped this? They actually have no cons utional answer.
Government can not solve everything
The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago
Evil doesn't exist it's all relative.
Agreed (especially about your gang banger point).bicA gang banger cant and wont purchase a firearm legally. If they have a criminal record they won't be walking out a gun store with a gun and also if they won't want anything to be traced back to them if they use it for illegal activity. And it seems like any gun advocate is called a redneck in these types of discussions. Many people just want a firearm for protection. Especially for home.
I have no idea the amount of guns in USA & imagine it's 10000x more then anything we ever had in Aus but when we had our amnesty (guns for cash) it took many guns out of peoples homes and as a result we have had no issues
Especially in Melbourne.....aside from a drug war in the early 2000's it's been very peaceful here since the change was made.
responsible adults who pass all the criteria can legally purchase licence then rifles or a handgun only. That's the way it's here i think.....This is not something i keep up to date or have much knowledge about tbh
The only times i've ever even fired guns was in SE Asia
Just saying the response should be to make it as hard as possible for any US citizen to legally purchase a fire-arm (even though in this particular case it wouldn't have mattered since their were no indications & he likely would have passed these control tests anyway)
Putting these controls in place and taking guns out of homes would be a major step in the right direction.....You have so many guns in America & very liberal laws (again i don't know exactly what they are)
We are different countries so im not saying i have the solution at all but you can look at other nations as an example to see how this type of action can work.
Last edited by ceds; 10-03-2017 at 05:18 PM.
It doesn't matter when the next state over doesn't have a gun control. And I just wondering, what would all those convert goers would be doing if that had guns. The guy was shooting them from a couple of hundred meters away.
This Aussie knows best.
You can't win. All stats are against you.
Why not just make bullets expensive as to buy? Then people can have their guns. If you want cheap ammo for the range, then you could still purchase the rounds at the range, but would have to be checked before you leave so no ammunition exit the premises. I would also set up a database showing how much ammunition was purchased and who purchased it as well as limit the size of a box of ammunition in stores like Cabela's etc. I would say 1 box every quarter is allowed. If you are using say an assault rifle, then the amount of ammunition allowed is drastically reduced. Once a person exceeds a certain amount of ammunition purchased, they are required by law to have their premises searched and will be unable to purchase the ammunition for the weapon for a year. Once the duration is up, then the database clears and the limit is lifted again. If a person purchases ammunition for another, then it is an illegal purchase and will be punished to the full extent of the law which includes prison time and loss of the ability to purchase ammunition permanently. If you commit a crime with a firearm, you also lose the ability to purchase ammunition as well as lose your right to possess a firearm.
Last edited by xellos88330; 10-03-2017 at 11:56 PM.
Any solution is a good solution. But this gun culture needs to change. Unfortunately it won't overnight. And America will continue to be de-sensitize while the rest of the world shakes their head.
Classic! Funny but true!!
There wasn't much those concert goers could do the guy apparently was a millionaire and had it planned for atleast a week.
What exactly needs to change? From what I understand automatic weapons are illegal or extremly hard to get. But should people now not be allowed to own firearms for self defense? Who in the rest of the world is shaking their heads?
Im sure much of those homicides are coming from gang violence.You can't win. All stats are against you.
Prayers don’t do , changing your laws do you sick s.
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