Kawhi is clearly worth 10+wins. That Super MVP level.
People fail to realize the structure of a modern day NBA organization. The best player is never "just" a player. Its been the best players role and and responsibility to evaluate his own rooster. Superstars do that.
If Kawhi feels like he should be getting a similar voice, then he deserves it.
Pops even alluded to this responsibility with the big 3. But the modern top 5 player superstar is an evem bigger animal.
Superstars write the checks.
They sell the games. They sell the league.
Its gonna continue to evolve into a bigger superstar league. Patty mills has food on his table because of Sells like kawhi.
Otherwise we are looking at mid 00 ty salary.
The Superstars make this league.
Not so hard to understand, spot on
Pop told Kawhi he should average between 22-24 points or something like that. You don't tell your in-his-prime superstar that.
If the Spurs get rid of Kawhi and are left with Aldridge.
This! Plus Jonathon was close with Kawhi. I can see paying Pau over Dedmon, but not Patty over Simmons.
This team is still stuck in the past which is hamstringing them from moving on to the future. I mean what can you say, you want to thank them for their loyalty and rewarding those players for their sacrifices when they took paycuts to make the team succeed but it doesn't really allow the team to move forward. Sure yeah, 3rd seed and all that without your best player but this team is stuck between the past and the future and has no real iden y. Gotta start letting go of the past because I kind of get that Kawhi may be seeing his prime years being wasted. A 40 year old shouldn't be your best playmaker. A slow 38 year old shouldn't be your starting center especially with how the league is being played. The backup point guards shouldn't be making close to $30 mil (combined) a year. Your team doesn't even have a legit 3rd big man. Your big move of the season shouldn't had been signing a 30+ year old coming back from a major injury that normally ends careers. It's all so head scratching.
Where's the clip? I don't see anything on reddit or anywhere else.
I think RC was paraphrased or something like ‘when your best player can’t play it’s challenging.’ Of course it’s challenging. It’s challenging to watch the games.
Lol if that's what he said then this thread is total clickbait. "It's challenging when your best player can't play" is entirely different from "the relationship between kawhi and me is challenging"
I find nothing about it too.....
No, he said the relationship is challenging, specifically said the word relationship. I deleted the game from my PVR or else I would upload. If anyone has the TNT feed recorded check out the first quarter, it's there I assure you
What Kawhi would be doing in this scenario is totally ing. It's not his job to worry about what other guys are making. He's not in the front office. Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if he didn't know what a lot of the guys on the team are getting. I can imagine a lot of players not looking into that. It's one thing to say he just wanted Patty and Pau gone (cancerous as that would be). But it's a stretch to think he would be upset that Patty is overpaid when there was zero chance of that money going to him.
What you're doing is the exact opposite of empathy. You're not looking at things from his perspective; you're forcing your own perspective on him. Patty is a player to you. To Kawhi, he's his co-worker who's been there with him since his rookie year. I doubt he's anywhere near as keen as you are to push decisions that dramatically affect Patty's life. Players in general seem to be becoming more vocal about how much they hate trades (which is why the deadline was pushed up this season). I can't imagine Kawhi feeling comfortable forcing Mills and Pau to move across the country just to make him feel better about their chances at winning. I know I wouldn't feel right doing that to any of my co-workers.It's about trying to understand what his thoughts are about the team moving forward as he, like any player, has thought about his future. It's called empathy. And if I were in his shoes, it would bother me especially if I wanted to win.
And again, this is ignoring that Kawhi has no reason to about the team's performance so far. They'll have to legit fail in le runs because the other guys can't get it done first.
If Kawhi wants to play in LA, it's up to him to tell PATFO that. He'd get no points for beating around the bush.If it's not about winning, then he is probably thinking about preferring to play closer to home, in LA.
Is there a film of R.C. saying that tonight on national television? I thought one of the TNT hosts said it. If they said it then maybe they are paraphrasing RC. Then again, why wouldn’t their relationship b3 challenging due to his injury? In the end I don’t think it’s very telling.
I think he hurt himself reaching to pick up the keys tbh
Bill Simmons, in his podcast the one with Jalen Rose, hinted that it could Nike behind it. AKA, they have invested millions and millions of Dollars on Kawhi and are expecting him to compete for MVP and be a contender in the playoffs.
Ive been a Spurs fan ever since........
Its frustrating to watch the Spurs no longer excel.....
I want to root for another team just to maintain my interest in the NBA, but......
There will never be another Spurs!
if that's the reason,I can respect, he's not a stupid guy after all.
no Ariza = no deal
tbh.
It is hypocritical for us as fans to be mad at the moves the FO has made, but tell Kawhi he needs to shut up and accept it... (for all we know, he HAS been shutting up... It is our own FO that is saying stuff about the relationship)
What about Anthony Davis for Kawhi/Mills? works in ESPN trade checker. Would NO bite?
trading for another injury prone superstar?
I don't think you get it. Actually, I don't think, I know you don't understand what I'm saying.
I'm not saying its his job to worry about what others are making. I know he's not the front office, and I'm sure he does too. No where did I say Kawhi has to want them traded. I never said, "if I was Kawhi I would demand them to be traded." All I said is based on the recent moves, it wouldn't surprise me if he was pessimistic about their chances in the near future, and I could see why he'd be open to leaving and why he could be disappointed or frustrated (note: Knowing how introverted Kawhi is, he's not the type to outwardly express that to anyone -- much less management). That's totally different than the picture you're trying to draw by implying that Kawhi has to be kicking and screaming wanting Patty and Pau to get traded.
Now for me, because I'm a fan and I want to see the team do well, I would like Patty to get traded to free up money and to give the younger and more effective players more playing time to shine. As a fan, I think those were mistakes that were made this summer. So yes, I'd like Patty to be traded, but no where did I say Kawhi has to be ing trying to get Patty moved asap. This is where comprehension comes into play and typically you have it, but in this cir stance you do not.
And also, if you really truly believe players are oblivious to what their teammates and others around the NBA are making, you couldn't be more wrong tbh.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 02-02-2018 at 07:57 AM.
Points for hyperbolic.
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