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    The problem is some are blinded from potential issues. Regardless of whether or not iq is a fixable issue it still seemingly takes generations to fix said issue. We do not need that at this point. And this really isn't relevant on the issue of illegals or low skilled immigrants because you can highlight them being problematic very easily in other ways. At this point though we can stick to getting rid of the law breaking illegals. Which everyone should agree on if they care about poor Americans.
    Oh more broad generalizations and whining about issues that aren't issues. Neat.

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    You guys are pathetic acting like I definitely attributed iq to genetics. It's merely a possibility. Therefore a risk. If it takes generations to change and a potential other factor being economic opportunity then perhaps we should stop handicapping the market with a surplus of low skilled workers. Especially in an era of automation where the problem can quickly get much worse.
    We can start by you providing a valid scientific definition of IQ.

    Your underlying assumption "that IQ is a valid, scientifically useful concept" needs to be proven before you can have an "issue".

    If you can't adequately measure and define it, the epistemological sandcastle you built gets washed away with the barest of scrutiny.

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    We can start by you providing a valid scientific definition of IQ.

    Your underlying assumption "that IQ is a valid, scientifically useful concept" needs to be proven before you can have an "issue".

    If you can't adequately measure and define it, the epistemological sandcastle you built gets washed away with the barest of scrutiny.

    http://bigthink.com/aeon-ideas/how-c...smiss-iq-tests

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    I'm not dismissing anything. I am asking for an underlying assumption to be proven. Burden of proof is pretty clear. "IQ tests are meaningful measures of intelligence" is a positive claim that requires proof before anyone should accept it.

    There is enough information on how they can be skewed and badly done for any reasonable person to be somewhat skeptical.

    Not clicking on the link. Provide a summary if you wish.

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