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  1. #101
    Before Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs had......




    He was the first of the big fast physical receivers. He was out of Prairie View A&M.
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  2. #102
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    Before Tyreek Hill, the Chiefs had......




    He was the first of the big fast physical receivers. He was out of Prairie View A&M.
    You still never answered my question.

    How fast was Barry Sanders?

  3. #103
    You still never answered my question.

    How fast was Barry Sanders?
    He ran a 4.37 40 which is fantastic for a RB.

    As far as I know he wasn't a track guy, not aware of it if he was. I can speculate knowing what I do about sprinting that he would be able to run a 10.40ish 100m. If wrong he'd be faster.

    His thing was a supernatural instinst to evade colors. RB's see the bad guys uniform colors the great ones don't think they simply react. Go where they are safe. And his ability to cut at near full speed.

    He is the greatest get out of traffic RB ever,

    As you can see no real forged in concrete anything here.

    NFL player
    100m time 40-yards dash Estimated time Difference
    Chris Johnson 10.38 4.24 4.327511 -0.08751
    DeMarcus Van 10.61 4.25 4.390455 -0.14045
    Dri Archer 10.49 4.26 4.35658 -0.09658
    Jerome Mathis 10.49 4.26 4.35658 -0.09658
    Jacoby Ford 10.32 4.26 4.312426 -0.05243
    Jeff Demps 10.01 4.26 4.242679 0.017321
    J. J. Nelson 10.49 4.28 4.35658 -0.07658
    Brian Witherspoon 10.22 4.29 4.288456 0.001544
    Darrius Heyward-Bey 10.3 4.3 4.307516 -0.00752
    Josh Robinson 10.77 4.33 4.439304 -0.1093
    Tye Hill 10.27 4.34 4.30026 0.03974
    Michael Huff 10.13 4.34 4.268097 0.071903
    Travis Benjamin 10.4 4.36 4.332659 0.027341
    Devery Henderson 10.4 4.36 4.332659 0.027341
    Roy Williams 10.3 4.36 4.307516 0.052484
    Brandon Banks 10.42 4.37 4.337867 0.032133
    C. J. Spiller 10.29 4.37 4.305083 0.064917
    Reggie Bush 10.42 4.38 4.337867 0.042133
    Jamaal Charles 10.23 4.38 4.290788 0.089212

    Jacoby Ford (actually a 10.01), Jeff Demps were legit world class sprinters, but they weren't much different that just fast footballers at 40. What seperates great sprinters from fast footballers is speed endurance, but that doesn't kick in until around 60ish m. By then footballers are done, they start decellerating while legit sprinters are still at topend.
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  4. #104
    What could have been.









    A few years ago I'm flipping the stations and come across a football game. NCA&T vs...done forgot. What the .

    That was my intro to this guy, I was stunned.






    Yep, Bears.
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  5. #105


    Not true about track guys being thin (not that there hasn't been). There have been TONS of muscular sprinters in football.

    Colts RB Curtis ey would blow Hill away in a 100m (10.10) he is the only NFL RB to ever be world ranked (while at Tex A&M) in a 100m/ The guy was a muscular 215.

    Herschel Walker a 10.23 at a muscular 225.

    By the way Deion was a 10.26 at FSU.




    Hayes is STILL the fastest player to ever play football. His 10.06 ran on a dirt track over 50 years ago far superior to anything ran since. (by a footballer)

    Darrel Green was a 10.08 while at Texas A&I, no way in he was faster than Bob Hayes.

    One of the great trivia questions is this one.

    While Hayes was in the NFL there were two other players who had beaten him in a sprint. Who?


    Thin?









    Are you kidding me? While Walker was fast he couldn't hang with Lewis or Floyd. So they show him winning a race vs far lesser compe ion there.
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    This forum has a legit football historian and a track guru
    It does? Where?

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    You still never answered my question.

    How fast was Barry Sanders?
    Fast enough to steal a nickel from your pocket and chug down a sarsaparilla soda before you can even blink.

  9. #109
    Why fight it guy? If you can't see it....why?

  10. #110
    Let's ask SFS this.

    When Bob Hayes was in the NFL there were two players there also who had beat him in the 200m, who?

    When the AFL/NFL merged, why three NFL teams became AFC teams?

    What two college cornerbacks became 1000 yard rushers in pro football?

    Who was known as "Long Gone" ?

    What school could fill 8 lanes with sub10.00 sprinters among the alum?

    I have asked tons of questions, he has answered.....0. The boy can't talk football or track in depth or from an historical perspective. Just like me and baseball, soccer, NASCAR.


    The guy is totally clueless as we will see.
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  11. #111
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    Fast enough to steal a nickel from your pocket and chug down a sarsaparilla soda before you can even blink.

  12. #112
    Fast enough to steal a nickel from your pocket and chug down a sarsaparilla soda before you can even blink.
    "Cool Papa" Bell (old negro leagues) was fast.

    He once hit a grounder between first and second, while rounding first for second he had to leap over the ball. (I better....it's a joke)


    Cool Papa Bell

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    James "Cool Papa" Bell
    Center fielder
    Born: May 17, 1903
    Starkville, Mississippi
    Died: March 7, 1991 (aged 87)
    St. Louis, Missouri
    Batted: Switch Threw: Left
    Negro leagues debut
    1922, for the St. Louis Stars
    Last appearance
    1946, for the Homestead Grays
    Negro leagues statistics
    Batting Average .328
    Home runs 73
    Teams
    Career highlights and awards
    Member of the National
    Baseball Hall of Fame
    Induction 1974
    Election Method Negro Leagues Committee
    James Thomas "Cool Papa" Bell (May 17, 1903 – March 7, 1991) was an American center fielder in Negro league baseball from 1922 to 1946. He is considered by many baseball observers[weasel words] to have been one of the fastest men ever to play the game. Stories demonstrating Bell's speed are still widely circulated. He was elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame in 1974. He ranked 66th on a list of the greatest baseball players published by The Sporting News in 1999.
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    He was so fast he could stand over his bet fully dressed, flick off the light and get undressed and be in bed before it got dark, cat was fast.


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    I can see the most dangerous simply because he can blow by anyone. But....do see Brown, Jones, Hopkins above him.

  16. #116
    Tonight we will see the new age QB, where the NFL will end up. That QB who can escape the rush, extend plays, scoot for 10-15. He is a weapon himself.

    If done right this is where the game should be. A real legit athlete playing QB.

    Lamar Jackson can go 90, think about that. What kind of stress does that put on a defense?

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    Lamar Jackson can't pass worth a and they'll go back to Flacco as soon as other teams stack the box.

    This is the same line you've been farting out for years now. You're an idiot.

  18. #118
    Lamar Jackson can't pass worth a and they'll go back to Flacco as soon as other teams stack the box.

    This is the same line you've been farting out for years now. You're an idiot.
    What do your Chiefs have right now ya stupid ?

    Stupid, Watson, Mariota, Wilson, Dak, Cam, Wentz, Allen, Rodgers, Darnold, Smith can all get out outside.

    Tell us all again how Dwight Clark is a TE and Nick Chubb ain't ya ing moron.

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    What do your Chiefs have right now ya stupid ?
    Mahomes is averaging 3.8 attempts per game.

    Aaron Rodgers is averaging 3.5 for his career.

    Drew Brees will be the MVP this year.

    You're a ing idiot.

    And you're fat.

  20. #120
    Mahomes is averaging 3.8 attempts per game.

    Aaron Rodgers is averaging 3.5 for his career.

    Drew Brees will be the MVP this year.

    You're a ing idiot.

    And you're fat.
    Nobody can be this damn dumb. Dude, will Mahomes take off and run as compared to Eli, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Dalton, well?

    Watch the game tonight moron, watch how important having wheels is.

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    Nobody can be this damn dumb. Dude, will Mahomes take off and run as compared to Eli, Brady, Brees, Ryan, Dalton, well?

    Watch the game tonight moron, watch how important having wheels is.
    Lol Eli, Brady, Brees have all won Super Bowls. Ryan played in one.

    Thanks for ting on your argument for me. That was funny.

  22. #122
    Lol Eli, Brady, Brees have all won Super Bowls. Ryan played in one.

    Thanks for ting on your argument for me. That was funny.
    My God this guy is dumb.

    Dude...THE FUTURE....is what is being talked about it, ok dummy?

    Look at how many times his legs made the difference tonight with Watson.

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    My God this guy is dumb.

    Dude...THE FUTURE....is what is being talked about it, ok dummy?

    Look at how many times his legs made the difference tonight with Watson.
    Like I said, you've been talking about the FUTURE for years now.

    You're a ing loon you fat piece of

  24. #124
    Like I said, you've been talking about the FUTURE for years now.

    You're a ing loon you fat piece of
    So ya were 100% wrong about Clark being a TE and now freaking out, hahahaha~~~

    Stupid, what did we see tonight ya dumb , well? Stupid, what do we see in the NCAA, how about in the HS's? Stupid, look at all the mobile QB's now in pro football compared to 10 years ago. Just how damn stupid are you slick?

    Dude, are you on meds? Not normal to be as dumb as you are.

    Are mobile quarterbacks the NFL's future?


  25. #125
    Is it.

    AFC

    Pats
    Chiefs...Chargers
    Steelers
    Texans....Colts

    NFC

    Bears...Vikes
    Cowboys
    Saints
    Rams....Seahawks

    So we have...

    A good mix of experience and no experience in the playoffs.

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