I'm in. Blow this up. As a lifelong Spurs fan I've been treated to some of the best, consistent basketball the league has ever witnessed over two decades. I've been spolied with the play of Hall of Famers in Duncan & Gibobili. But now the winners are gone & it's time. This current roster has NO winners on it. They have two talented offensive veterans in DeRozan and Aldridge and a couple of young players in White & Poeltl who've shown flashes of being very good. Other than that, they are a collection of role players and misfits who all seem to be genuinely good people but not the core of a solid team.
Had this team really possessed winning DNA & played as a unit with a belief they can win in the playoffs, tonight's loss would not have happened. A close game against Cleveland would not have happened. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to a team who has NOTHING to play for except pride. They Kings obviously have more than the Spurs and are just better as evidenced by the 0-3 series sweep. But this isn't about any one opponent. This is about the Spurs. This is a team that can win when the shots fall but lose when they don't. There's no fight, there's no grit, there's no heart.
BLOW IT UP. Oh, and anyone thinking Dejounte Murray would have made any difference whatsoever, you're sadly delusional. He won't help next year either. He's not a point guard, he doesn't distribute the ball well and the last we all saw of him, he can't shoot for . Everything else we've heard is hearsay. He sucked and bowed out of summer league play because he's a loser.
Yep, that the point I'm trying to relay.
If you are not contending: a well-coached, young, rag-tag team, full of hard asses playing both ways > multiple late-prime empty calories "stars" on big money.
My biggest issue with this franchise is that they have become just another dumb organization..
I wish we could of got two first round picks for harris.instead were stuck with defrozen and an aging aldridge
It's not contentment. Arrogant-ass Pop still thinks he can coach them to playoff success.
One of my favorite cartoons of all time. This is exactly where PATFO is:
Look at this roster and tell me this isn't the definition of blowing it up.
As long as Aldridge, Mills (in terms of that ridiculous salary) & DeRozan are on the roster, nothing's been blown up yet. Move Rudy too. He can't or doesn't want to play defense for .
The first step is Pop being told by the two new owners that if he wants to coach next year, he relinquishes control of player personnel descions. All of it! He has zero final say, he's just the coach. Pop doesn't like it, thank you for everything ... here's the door. You can rule USA basketball.
There have been so many missed opportunities by Pop and this FO to be proactive in bettering this roster for the past two seasons, and if Pop wants to be the head of Basketball Operations, then the blame falls on him! RC can only do as much as Pop will allow him! Roster construction, trades, fa signings, buyouts ... all of it needs to taken away from Pop starting when the Spurs are eliminated from the playoffs in a few weeks. If Brent Barry is the next in line for that job, it's time to step into it. The descions over the 3 draft picks, the futures of Mills/Forbes/Mulitinuv/Moore/Bertans, the strategy of how this franchise is going to transition from LMA and DeRozen, need to made by a FO without the iron hand of Greg Popovich shaping their choices.
+1I'm in. Blow this up. As a lifelong Spurs fan I've been treated to some of the best, consistent basketball the league has ever witnessed over two decades. I've been spolied with the play of Hall of Famers in Duncan & Gibobili. But now the winners are gone & it's time. This current roster has NO winners on it. They have two talented offensive veterans in DeRozan and Aldridge and a couple of young players in White & Poeltl who've shown flashes of being very good. Other than that, they are a collection of role players and misfits who all seem to be genuinely good people but not the core of a solid team.
Had this team really possessed winning DNA & played as a unit with a belief they can win in the playoffs, tonight's loss would not have happened. A close game against Cleveland would not have happened. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to a team who has NOTHING to play for except pride. They Kings obviously have more than the Spurs and are just better as evidenced by the 0-3 series sweep. But this isn't about any one opponent. This is about the Spurs. This is a team that can win when the shots fall but lose when they don't. There's no fight, there's no grit, there's no heart.
BLOW IT UP. Oh, and anyone thinking Dejounte Murray would have made any difference whatsoever, you're sadly delusional. He won't help next year either. He's not a point guard, he doesn't distribute the ball well and the last we all saw of him, he can't shoot for . Everything else we've heard is hearsay. He sucked and bowed out of summer league play because he's a loser.
I'm in. Blow this up. As a lifelong Spurs fan I've been treated to some of the best, consistent basketball the league has ever witnessed over two decades. I've been spolied with the play of Hall of Famers in Duncan & Gibobili. But now the winners are gone & it's time. This current roster has NO winners on it. They have two talented offensive veterans in DeRozan and Aldridge and a couple of young players in White & Poeltl who've shown flashes of being very good. Other than that, they are a collection of role players and misfits who all seem to be genuinely good people but not the core of a solid team.
Had this team really possessed winning DNA & played as a unit with a belief they can win in the playoffs, tonight's loss would not have happened. A close game against Cleveland would not have happened. There is absolutely no excuse to lose to a team who has NOTHING to play for except pride. They Kings obviously have more than the Spurs and are just better as evidenced by the 0-3 series sweep. But this isn't about any one opponent. This is about the Spurs. This is a team that can win when the shots fall but lose when they don't. There's no fight, there's no grit, there's no heart.
BLOW IT UP. Oh, and anyone thinking Dejounte Murray would have made any difference whatsoever, you're sadly delusional. He won't help next year either. He's not a point guard, he doesn't distribute the ball well and the last we all saw of him, he can't shoot for . Everything else we've heard is hearsay. He sucked and bowed out of summer league play because he's a loser.
Naw its just a lack of urgency
Spoiled fans smh
I think all the dumbasses on this site who keep complaining and saying to "blow it up" need to become Suns fans and see what that's like for a few years. If you can't support the Spurs then GTFO.
big difference between the suns’ FO and the spurs’.
people keep thinking that tanking one season will result in the spurs being one of the worse teams in the league for years
people keep thinking that tanking one season will result in the spurs being one of the worse teams in the league for years
"You just don't understand. If we give up the streak, it's gone forever."
Nobody cares about the streak other than Spur fans.
I really don't get where some Spurs fans think tanking is going to guarantee a return to prominence. It doesn't guarantee .
I think all the dumbasses on this site cheering for a crippled man to get out of his chair and walk should take a look at The Brooklyn Nets, Milwaukee Bucks, Denver Nuggets or Sacramento Kings to see what starting over can look like. All of those teams have brighter futures than this current Spurs roster because most of them tore the band-aid off and started over. As a fan, I gave it a chance to see if it could work. It can't. We have a team full of Hero Ball chuckers more interested in shooting than making stops.
It's going to take more than tanking. It's going to mean making moves to assemble a team that can play basketball on both sides of the ball. Ask Toronto. They were willing to trade a beloved player for a "chance" on a weird, malcontent, soon to be Unrestricted free agent who ing knows how to score & defend. He's probably going to bolt on them and they are ok with it because they knew Demar sure as wasn't the answer.
It guarantees top draft picks and that is the only way the spurs are going to add young top level talent.
Unfortunately, us self-admitted, spoiled fans learned what "winners" and winning basketball look like. It aint this.
You should just start every post with that.
Nobody said anything about a ing guarantee, you twit. There are no guarantees. Except I can guarantee you that if the team doesn't have enough talent, it isn't going to contend for a championship.
Tanking meant a LOT more than just losing games. The point was that they would have gotten rid of some players, rather than overpaying them. That means that for a year, they would have been playing some younger, lesser-experienced players. That would have cleared cap space, and at the same time it would have given those young players some valuable floor time against top-level compe ion.
It would have meant getting a high enough draft pick to pick up a legitimate impact player. Not guaranteeing a generational talent like Tim, but someone who has more skills and upside than White and Murray. Those guys are very good - for late draft picks. But nobody has the same expectation for them that they would have for, say, a Top 3 pick.
It would have meant having some experienced young players on cheap contracts, and enough cap space to pay for some really good FA's. Instead, this team is handcuffed by the cap, and has a number of young guys who are going to have to get paid to stay. Which will put the team back into cap jail. It's about timing and roster construction. If you think it's just about losing some games, why... oh never mind. I already know the answer.
This!!!
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This team positively sucks. It is just not the level of talent as much as it is the type of talent..
It is almost as if somebody told them to go corner the market on career losers (or perceived ones): who would've thought- only 5 years after the peak of the Beautiful Game--- the Top 3-4 best players on our roster would be Aldridge, Derozan and Rudy Gay?
You can afford to have one of that archetype in in a secondary or tertiary role, but three is total overkill..
Short of a sweep at the hands of the Nuggets (not the Dubs), I don't expect any sort of long, hard look at the roster from this stale front office..They will chalk it up to Murray's torn ACL and will move on..
That's the whole point, isn't it?
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