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    It's obvious what is going on. The developer does want a IRL race in SA. What the developer also wants are the local governments to assist it with procuring the site with such goodies such as the use of eminent domain and tax abatements and what not else if it does decide to build a track in SA. HollyHills is not going to build a facility without a race and it doesn't have to worry about that given its relationship with the IRL.

    How better to get San Antonio de Bexar on your side than to give them the idea that you really would build them a brand new state of the art $700 million football stadium without so much as a lease with any team or event?

    What's going to happen is that the developer will show its plans to build a new track on the site and then there's going to be two circles drawn in dotted lines. Those lines are going to represent where someone would build a new football and baseball stadium on the site if they were damned fool enough to blow $1 billion+.

    They are counting on a bunch of little Buddy Hollys eating their bull up.

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    The Freeman/SBC facility and relationship to the county just happens to be an area that I have a lot of expertise in.

    Writer made the flat statement of fact that the Freeman Coliseum and rodeo barns would be torn down.

    #1) The grounds aren't 1100 acres. they are 146 acres.

    #2) When the land was donated to the County to build Freeman Coliseum there was specific language in the donation that the primary use of the land would be to "promote agriculture"...This language was a big issue in getting the bonds to build the SBC approved...The reason that it finally got approved was because the rodeo occupies the SBC for a month and designated portions of the grounds year round.

    sooo...no rodeo, and the County breaches the terms of the land donation...
    And what I've heard is that Freeman and all the barns ar eup for grabs in terms of being razed for future development.

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    It's obvious what is going on. The developer does want a IRL race in SA. What the developer also wants are the local governments to assist it with procuring the site with such goodies such as the use of eminent domain and tax abatements and what not else if it does decide to build a track in SA. HollyHills is not going to build a facility without a race and it doesn't have to worry about that given its relationship with the IRL.

    How better to get San Antonio de Bexar on your side than to give them the idea that you really would build them a brand new state of the art $700 million football stadium without so much as a lease with any team or event?[/quote[

    What's going to happen is that the developer will show its plans to build a new track on the site and then there's going to be two circles drawn in dotted lines. Those lines are going to represent where someone would build a new football and baseball stadium on the site if they were damned fool enough to blow $1 billion+.

    They are counting on a bunch of little Buddy Hollys eating their bull up.
    Football stadiums cost 700 million now? Nice job of grabbing any number from out your ass.

    LOL at Marky Mark.

    That whole post smells of sad depuration.

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    Baseball sucks almost as much as soccer or watching people drive around in circles.

    These are stupid ideas.
    Baseball does not suck. What sucks, is your ing blog.

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    You truly ARE out of your ing mind.

    County officials would like to see a plan that would build on the Stock Show & Rodeo's agricultural tradition, lure industrial trade shows the Convention Center can't easily accommodate, and take advantage of the SBC Center, which will not be changed. The slew of barns and outbuildings and even the 55-year-old, concrete-and-steel Freeman Coliseum is fair game.
    http://www.mysanantonio.com/business....181b7d90.html

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    Nice work. Looks like CC got owned.

    Seems like some of these tools are wanting San Antonio to hide from the fact that we are no longer a hole sout texas town and are becoming a major force in all aspects.

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    Football stadiums cost 700 million now? Nice job of grabbing any number from out your ass.

    LOL at Marky Mark.

    That whole post smells of sad depuration.

    "Depuration"? Is that what it's called when you sit at home, take pics of your TV and post them online? Or is that when you claim someone else's pics as your own and post them in the fan forum of the boy band "NSYNC"?

    I mean, the distance between the game you talk and reality grows by the hour.

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    As for the price I stated, my source was the San Antonio Express-News:

    A stadium would carry a price tag of about $700 million, sports marketing experts say. The Dallas Cowboys' stadium in Arlington, scheduled to open in 2009, is expected to cost $650 million. Voters in Arlington approved the raising of taxes to pay for $325 million of the cost.

    "I don't believe that's a good use for taxpayers' money," Hardberger said.

    But Hardberger didn't rule out the possibility of the Saints gaining a stadium in the area via other funding mechanisms.

    "It could be, of course, that the state could get involved with that or it could be developers on their own right get involved with that," Hardberger said. "There are other ways stadiums get built. But as far as San Antonio being a player in the building of a new stadium, I wouldn't want to do that."
    link

    Try again.

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    And what I've heard is that Freeman and all the barns ar eup for grabs in terms of being razed for future development.

    The point is that the use of the property cannot be changed.

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    Nice work. Looks like CC got owned
    I don't think so. You know that "plan" they refer to? I have been a part of developing it. Freeman isn't going anywhere. Some barns will be replaced but they aren't going away.

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    I don't think so. You know that "plan" they refer to? I have been a part of developing it. Freeman isn't going anywhere. Some barns will be replaced but they aren't going away.
    THEN I NEED TO MAKE A PLEA TO YOU. PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO TEAR THAT HOLE CALLED FREEMAN DOWN. IT IS A USELESS PIECE OF . PLEASE BLOW THAT UP AND GET RID OF IT.

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    I don't think so. You know that "plan" they refer to? I have been a part of developing it. Freeman isn't going anywhere. Some barns will be replaced but they aren't going away.

    Forget the news, you just heard it from a newsmaker, kiddos.

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    Freeman is a perfectly viable 8000 seat arena. It just needs some infrastructure improvements around it to make it more marketable.

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    The Outside Sucks. The Inside Sucks. Id Rather Have It Tore Down So I Dont Have To Look At That Awful Creation

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    The Outside Sucks. The Inside Sucks. Id Rather Have It Tore Down So I Dont Have To Look At That Awful Creation
    Hmmm...spend the $100K's to tear it down or leave it up and say "tough " to the kiddo. What to do?

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    Hmmm...spend the $100K's to tear it down or leave it up and say "tough " to the kiddo. What to do?
    I WILL TEAR IT DOWN FOR FREE. SAY THE WORD AND I WILL WORK DAY AND NIGHT TAKING THAT HOLE DOWN

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    Damn...you sure are bitter...did your high school buddies get to graduate there while you just got to watch?

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    Damn...you sure are bitter...did your high school buddies get to graduate there while you just got to watch?
    IT SUCKS AND U KNOW IT

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    "Depuration"? Is that what it's called when you sit at home, take pics of your TV and post them online? Or is that when you claim someone else's pics as your own and post them in the fan forum of the boy band "NSYNC"?

    I mean, the distance between the game you talk and reality grows by the hour.
    My my... where can I buy a shield that deflects everything?

    I want one like yours.

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    As for the price I stated, my source was the San Antonio Express-News:



    link

    Try again.
    So why is the Cardinals stadium only costing 300 million?

    Explain ol' wise doorknob.

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    I don't think so. You know that "plan" they refer to? I have been a part of developing it. Freeman isn't going anywhere. Some barns will be replaced but they aren't going away.
    That plan they refer to was a proposal.

    And that plan is out the window seeing how Holly Hills bought the 1,100 acres.

    And it was county officials who said the freeman and barns were fair game.

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    So why is the Cardinals stadium only costing 300 million?
    Probably because that one's near completion. Why is the Cowboys' new stadium running at $650 mil?

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    My my... where can I buy a shield that deflects everything?

    I want one like yours.

    Funny, you seem to think you have one.

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    They should include professional Cricket, Curling and Lacrosse stadiums into this complex.

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    Probably because that one's near completion. Why is the Cowboys' new stadium running at $650 mil?
    Many different factors.

    But no one knows how mucha new stadium would cost.

    Esp when built in San Antonio.

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