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It is a second tier city and will never be sexy. That doesn't necessarily mean we won't get a great free agent some day. It would just require someone who doesn't care about that kind of stuff.
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Been to SA tens of times for games. Always ended up in Austin though. No nightlife, no nothing, even restaurants are sad, frankly. Great for tranquil life, grill in the backyard with neighbors and all that stuff. Hard to attract punkish early twenties black basketball players with a dozen girlfriends and a superlarge ''family''
It is a second tier city and will never be sexy. That doesn't necessarily mean we won't get a great free agent some day. It would just require someone who doesn't care about that kind of stuff.
There is definitely nightlife and great restaurants. Is that night life on par with Austin? No of course not, but then again not many cities have nightlife on par with Austin. The Pearl Southtown, and various other spots downtown have good bars. The north side has a couple nice spots as well. The issue is that we don’t have specific streets like 6th street or Rainey that are the dedicated bar streets
what about st Mary’s street?
Ehh. It’s pretty weak when compared to something like sixth or Rainey tbh
What kind of food do you eat? S.A. has great restaurants and lots of them. Tex-Mex, BBQ, burgers, seafood, etc...
SA is top 10 in population only because it's relatively geographically huge and gobbles up every suburb it can. Better to look at metro area populations, where SA/New Braunfels is about the 24th largest.
So many stupid posts.
It's simple. Its because you have to leave your ego at the door and fall in line. Pop has established a military like environment, which the entire league admires and respects but would never want to be apart of it.
Good food is not 'great restaurant'. Any place with a famed, starred chef, where you can eat last trendy dish and spot celebrities and all that stuff? Not really. And that's where pro athletes go with their people and girls before moving to a fashionable club. None of that in SA.
I am not looking down to SA, I wouldn't mind living there one day, when older. But very few rich young and famous would want, frankly.
I guess it is one of the reason PATFO wants 'good' people. Usually they tend to be on the quieter side.
San Antonio has limited black entertainment. I struggled to promote Grover Washington Jr. years ago in San Antonio, when he was considered top 10 jazz musician of all time.
Luna is a great place to grab a drink and listen to Jazz in SA..
All the stuff popping up around N St Marys is great too. Tons of awesome little spots to drink and eat and hang out.
Its Pop.
I'm sure most player value pop as a coach but no 1st tier superstar would want to do everything and not get l the credit
David, Timmy. I mean they’re not really recruting talent. Then we had the mute. Maybe if DJ pans out, he can start recruiting. Akron was not any better place to live, but they had LeBron who’s consorting with everybody. Sorry to say, but Timmy was this geek kid in the corner nobody really knew and play with. Maybe any of White, DJ and Lonnie gets really good, and Spurs get really good, and people would like to play with them. But they have to go out there in ASG, Olympics. I’m sure Pop can help also.
Last edited by John B; 05-01-2019 at 06:45 PM.
at people mention st mary's... yeah, millionaires are just dying to get drinks from dive bars
done with this thread / trashing sa though.
Yeah players today don't want to be told to play defense..
SA did keep a top 50 player all time, and a top 10 player all time their entire careers. And Tony, Manu both could have bailed for more money, and a bigger market. I think players today want to win. Yeah LA is nice, and so is NY, but when the teams ing suck.. Not so fun.. That said Spurs have always been great at building from the Draft and putting pieces around the top picks. We will keep doing that.. Got 2 first round picks this year..
I brought up Shaq,Lebron,Durant because those guys were either the best player in the league when they left their teams or at least top 3. Majority of those guys you mentioned did not leave their teams through FA. That was my point that teams rarely get a legit superstar through FA. You are right though star players in small markets are more likely to leave. #2 wanting to leave despite having a shot at winning another le with the spurs was a humbling experience for me because I always believed if you built a contender that you could keep your superstar. The biggest pain for Spur fans is that they had to wait for a long period of time for #2 to become a superstar. In my eyes he didn't become a legit Superstar until '16-'17. We never got to enjoy the experience of having him as a Superstar for a full playoff run. Spurs should have had him for at least 2 more years and if he still left that would have been fine. To me it's a disgrace when you sign a guy you can't even get him to play through his whole entire contract. That's why guys like #2 and AD are disgraces. NO needs to force AD to play next year just to set a precedent.
Just wayy spot on
I think Pop and the Spurs organization promote that kind of “culture,” and the city goes along for the ride unfortunately. I’ve heard so many people back home in SA take pride in how “boring” the city is. “We like it that way.”
IMHO, the city is too military...hence too conservative. When you arrive at SAT, the first thing you hear on the PA system is “Welcome to Military City, USA.” I don’t intend to disrespect our armed forces, but that le isn’t exactly all that fun or welcoming.
It has gone from Military City to Mexico City over the last five years. I still love SA and miss living there. I don’t think the city is a big negative. It is near Austin where there are more things and festivals to do. There is also no state income tax. The city used to be a negative back in the day. In today’s NBA the location isn’t a huge dealbreaker.
What city has consistently attracted free agents in the last few decades? I don't think one really stands out, and often the reason for players going somewhere lies in relationships, not cityscapes. LeBron went to Miami to play with his buddy Dwayne. He went back to Cleveland for sentimental reasons, not because Cleveland is a dynamic city. Gordon Hayward went to Boston to play for his old college coach, Durant wanted efficient teammates, Steve Nash liked D'Antoni's offense, and Paul George decided to stay with his pal Russell Westbrook, even though every sportswriter & analyst in the country considered it a foregone conclusion that he'd be signing with the Lakers... I don't really see much of a pattern. Madison Square Garden is considered basketball Mecca and NYC is one of the all time great global cities, but FAs have avoided the Knicks like the plague for a long time.
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