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    Why sign someone just not to play them?

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    Maybe Pop never wanted Carroll and this is his protest. I can understand that, but you are punishing the entire team by starting Forbes and playing him all those minutes.

    If that’s true, then Pop is not over himself like he preaches. I don’t think he ever was anyway.

    You have to wonder.

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    It makes no sense at all. If pop is running the team and franchise and knows he won’t play him then why sign him?

    only 2 things make sense to me for possible reasons for this.
    1) the FO wanted to sign him but pop didn’t. And he’s flexing his muscle to the FO
    2) pop wanted him and then at some point Carroll called pop out on something that was stupid and pop permanently put him in the dog house to flex his power.

    some will say maybe Carroll just sucks. That’s why he isn’t playing. But that’s a dumb naive take. Carroll is the same player he was last year. If he sucks now, then he sucked then so why sign him?

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    It makes no sense at all. If pop is running the team and franchise and knows he won’t play him then why sign him?

    only 2 things make sense to me for possible reasons for this.
    1) the FO wanted to sign him but pop didn’t. And he’s flexing his muscle to the FO
    2) pop wanted him and then at some point Carroll called pop out on something that was stupid and pop permanently put him in the dog house to flex his power.

    some will say maybe Carroll just sucks. That’s why he isn’t playing. But that’s a dumb naive take. Carroll is the same player he was last year. If he sucks now, then he sucked then so why sign him?
    Idc how much he sucks... His defense is better than Forbes an Marco's put together.

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    What little I have seen of this washed up tin man piece of crap....he sucks. This falls on poop for wasting a spot for someone who Spurs could desperately need. He can’t even jump.
    Some young live body at 6’ 8” who can defend and rebound-but no. Poop sucks

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    Idc how much he sucks... His defense is better than Forbes an Marco's put together.
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    I'd rather see him out there than Forbes or Marco. It's odd to sign a player for that amount of money and not use him at all. If I'm the Spurs I'm looking at how to strengthen the roster, and one way would be to get rid of him for a player Pop might use.

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    Signing Carroll and not playing him. Trading Bertans for nothing. Two signs this FO is dysfunctional. Coaching staff is also dysfunctional.

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    No, but there were trades that probably could have opened up more space that would. Could have used a future pick(s) + Beli/Bertans/Mills to open up space so then could target a true difference maker.

    Im not saying give up the youth, but using some future assets+lesser core players for cap space was certainly an option if the team was really pressing to compete this year.

    Don’t hate what happened, still time for trades (think CHA) but SA was not going into this off season with the goal to really go for it and there is a strong argument they should have.
    Ha cha cha mang

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    Pop is just a miserable SOB. Retire already.

    Pop crying about losing Davis after getting screwed by Morris is stupid as well. Davis was in Pops doghouse ALL THE TIME. Pop didn’t know how to use him. That’s on Pop, not Davis or Morris.

    Nobody wants to play for Pop. When Morris got the hint of another deal, he bailed in an unprecedented manner with no regard. He never wanted to play in SA.

    You don’t think players around the league notice Davis going off after being caged with the Spurs? You don’t think they noticed Kawhi also getting out in an unprecedented manner? You think they notice Aldridge wanted to get traded one year after being here? You don’t think they see a dude like Walker riding the pine for Brent ing Forbes? Players aren’t dumb. That Game of Zones soul box bit was spot on.

    Pop got screwed by Morris because nobody wants to play for Pop.

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    Pop is just a miserable SOB. Retire already.

    Pop crying about losing Davis after getting screwed by Morris is stupid as well. Davis was in Pops doghouse ALL THE TIME. Pop didn’t know how to use him. That’s on Pop, not Davis or Morris.

    Nobody wants to play for Pop. When Morris got the hint of another deal, he bailed in an unprecedented manner with no regard. He never wanted to play in SA.

    You don’t think players around the league notice Davis going off after being caged with the Spurs? You don’t think they noticed Kawhi also getting out in an unprecedented manner? You think they notice Aldridge wanted to get traded one year after being here? You don’t think they see a dude like Walker riding the pine for Brent ing Forbes? Players aren’t dumb. That Game of Zones soul box bit was spot on.

    Pop got screwed by Morris because nobody wants to play for Pop.
    I wouldn't want to play for this senile grandpa either. You might just ride the bench while you're watching a player who shouldn't even be in the league start and get the 3rd highest minutes on the entire roster. That's Demarre Carroll's situation. He's at worst the 10th best player on this team, but somehow Pop starts the 14th and plays the 13th over the 3rd best player.

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    If you recall his last performance in the Walker led Rockets game, he was 17 shades of awful. He's most likely a whiff in terms of what the Spurs thought he could provide. IE his game just deteriorated over this past summer

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    If you recall his last performance in the Walker led Rockets game, he was 17 shades of awful. He's most likely a whiff in terms of what the Spurs thought he could provide. IE his game just deteriorated over this past summer
    He has looked awful in the minutes he played, but he also never got real minutes or a real role. Hard to judge on such a small sample size

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    Carroll is broke. He got nothing. He can’t even jump and runs around (barely) like he is all rusted out. WTF was poop thinking.

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    I always thought this was a bad signing, due to his age, and position redundancy( he is more of a power forward than small forward). The Spurs needed to get younger and more athletic, a cheaper alternative would have been better to leave the spot open for a Gleague player or waiver wire pickup. Even taking a reach on Stanley Johnson or Rondae Hoillis before both signed for much cheaper with the Raptors.
    Carroll should be moved for whomever or whatever because he is waisting away what years he had left, and before he becomes a disgruntled distraction as loses pile up. Just out of respect for the veteran and improve chances with future free agents. Obviously Carroll jumped at the money, and the Spurs jumped at the chance at any veteran wanting to sign with them. Didn't work out for either side.

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    I'm surprised he hasn't been used as Pop usually loves old, washed-up s like him, tbh.

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    Neither version is good, whichever is reality.

    If he's washed-up, or slow to catch on, he shouldn't have been signed.

    If he's capable, then he should be played.

    My guess, is he's one of those guys that "got old fast" and seemed like a good signing, but has looked awful in practice, or at least comparable to Lyles.

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    If my grandpa threw away $7million/year for 3 years, I'd have him committed.

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    Seriously, Pop needs a mental health exam. He just ain't right.

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    I wouldn't want to play for this senile grandpa either. You might just ride the bench while you're watching a player who shouldn't even be in the league start and get the 3rd highest minutes on the entire roster. That's Demarre Carroll's situation. He's at worst the 10th best player on this team, but somehow Pop starts the 14th and plays the 13th over the 3rd best player.
    The NBA's best star travels every time he touches the ball. Its entertainment. And since you are so triggered it's working. Half the spurs roster shouldn't be considered professional, just like every other nba team. Get over it.

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    He can barely move. It hurts to watch him.

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    Keldon got to play, and Metu and still not Carroll. He’d have to be in a really deep Pvt Epstein.

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    My guess is this was another blunder by Wright. With Buford occupied by his new CEO responsibilities and Pop busy coaching the national team to their worst tournament finish, Wright was left in charge of building the roster for the upcoming season. Would explain why Pop refuses to play him since he didn't want him in the first place.

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    My guess is this was another blunder by Wright. With Buford occupied by his new CEO responsibilities and Pop busy coaching the national team to their worst tournament finish, Wright was left in charge of building the roster for the upcoming season. Would explain why Pop refuses to play him since he didn't want him in the first place.
    Very doubtful, I'd say impossible, since the agreement to sign Carroll happened in the first hour of free agency, but the serious team USA stuff didn't begin until August, and Buford didn't move into the new job until September. The timing for that idea is off by months. Carroll is on the roster because Pop and RC agreed they wanted him.

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    Poop and rc are demented drunk ass ups

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