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    Don't need to own a team to know that is a rounding error for any NBA team's total payroll.

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    Man, it's great the season has started!

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    I realize how the luxury tax pay-back system works. But I don't support keeping players for the sake of keeping players. I say the 14th player should have a role or purpose. Ford would never have found playing time for a reason, he is not needed. He has no role on this team. The role Ford would have filled is already occupied by better players. Let Phoenix develop him, and if the Spurs can use him next season, then the Spurs can sign him next year. The only role open on this team - the perennial search for Bowen's replacement won't be filled by finding some scrub for the 14th player position. Of course Bowen was an undrafted FA, so I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong I'll be glad to admit it.

    But you're gonna have a tough time convincing me that Ford would have brought anything to the table this year, or next year - that isn't already filled by a better player. Guess we'll see what happens in Phoenix.

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    The Spurs took someone off IR and made him their starting shooting guard the next season on a le team. The Spurs took someone off IR and made him their primary reserve bigman for 5 seasons, including 2 le runs, etc...

    They've carried young prospects on IR for every prior season in the Pop era and Bob Hill and LBrown and Lucas did before him. What's changed this season? You have one of the best talent evaluation staffs in the league, if not the best. You really believe there aren't guys out there that they can find who would be worth taking a shot on? Get real.

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    Maybe that interest in Dupree was predicated on another move...
    Maybe not.

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    We'll see. Beno had a nice seat last night.

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    Look, as I see it, only two teams over the tax threshold appreciably increased their spending. Many have let go actual NBA players -- not just Sharrod Fords. The elimination of the fuzzy math that existed in the tax code is making this all very real for all owners, not just Holt.

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    The Spurs took someone off IR and made him their starting shooting guard the next season on a le team. The Spurs took someone off IR and made him their primary reserve bigman for 5 seasons, including 2 le runs, etc...

    They've carried young prospects on IR for every prior season in the Pop era and Bob Hill and LBrown and Lucas did before him. What's changed this season? You have one of the best talent evaluation staffs in the league, if not the best. You really believe there aren't guys out there that they can find who would be worth taking a shot on? Get real.
    The difference I see, is that this year's Spurs team is deeper than any of the previous years teams. Unless someone gets moved or there is a rash of injuries how do you see a 14th player getting time? Unless that player has a particular role that the Spurs will want to utilize for particular match-ups. I don't see Ford as possessing that type of play. Not to say the Spurs don't have their eyes on particular players, but it's obvious, to me, that Ford is not the type of player the Spurs need at this time.

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    Look, as I see it, only two teams over the tax threshold appreciably increased their spending. Many have let go actual NBA players -- not just Sharrod Fords. The elimination of the fuzzy math that existed in the tax code is making this all very real for all owners, not just Holt.
    How many teams are only carrying 13 players?

    I haven't looked it up, but I'd guess you can count those teams on one hand.

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    Look, as I see it, only two teams over the tax threshold appreciably increased their spending. Many have let go actual NBA players -- not just Sharrod Fords. The elimination of the fuzzy math that existed in the tax code is making this all very real for all owners, not just Holt.

    Their payroll is going to continue to be heavily subsidized.

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    The difference I see, is that this year's Spurs team is deeper than any of the previous years teams. Unless someone gets moved or there is a rash of injuries how do you see a 14th player getting time? Unless that player has a particular role that the Spurs will want to utilize for particular match-ups. I don't see Ford as possessing that type of play. Not to say the Spurs don't have their eyes on particular players, but it's obvious, to me, that Ford is not the type of player the Spurs need at this time.

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    That's this season. Why forego the potential to find useful players for beyond this season? It's not like they don't have the room.

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    Their payroll is going to continue to be heavily subsidized.
    As will those of 21 other teams.

    Your point?

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    Between the fat lux tax distributions the Spurs have received over the last few seasons, the extra revenue from 2 le runs in the last 3 seasons and the arena deal it's hard to see how the Spurs are in such great financial danger moving forward.

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    As will those of 21 other teams.

    Your point?

    The point is that they are going to continue to get plenty of $ back under the system.

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    Props to Peter Holt.
    show me the proof that the Spurs released Ford cause of Holt...

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    That's this season. Why forego the potential to find useful players for beyond this season? It's not like they don't have the room.
    I also don't see much of a role for Ford next season either. Horry is signed for 2 years. Scola will be free, I think, of his buy-out in 2 years. Maybe we can bring Scola over next year. I just don't see a place for Ford, at all, on this team in the forseeable future. Keeping 14th members around because they can be useful in 3 years just doesn't make sense to me. I'm certainly not opposed to bringing another player on-board. Heck, like you said, we have the room. But let that player at least have the potential of possibly getting some playing time, or let that player be around to fill a need in the near future. Ford as an under-sized 4 is neither needed in the short-term nor the long-term IMHO.

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    How many teams are only carrying 13 players?

    I haven't looked it up, but I'd guess you can count those teams on one hand.
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    Ford has all the potential to be a NBA player. Why lose talent?

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    The point is that they are going to continue to get plenty of $ back under the system.
    Yes, and more teams than ever will do so as well. That was my point. Only two teams were headed in the other direction.

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    Well good. So the Spurs will continue to benefit from the system along with a number of other franchises.

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    Ford has all the potential to be a NBA player. Why lose talent?
    I'm just reminded of those Portland, Dallas, and Sacramento teams that whole-sale acquired talent in the pursuit of a ring. Talent needs to match need, purpose, style, etc. From what I've heard (OK, here's my big lie of shame, living in Alabama, I haven't seen Ford play at all, just going by word-of-mouth) Ford is more suited for an up-tempo style of play. And he would just sit on the IR list every night as it would be virtually impossible to find him playing time on this team. Virtually any player who has ever played the summer league has the potential to be an NBA player. Why should the Spurs keep this particular player is the question.

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    Portland, Dallas, et al would drop $20 mil on those players. We are talking about $300K.

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    How many teams are only carrying 13 players?

    I haven't looked it up, but I'd guess you can count those teams on one hand.
    How many players were in the rotation by the time the Finals rolled around? I'm curious, what is the point of paying two extra guys that won't play?

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    How many players were in the rotation by the time the Finals rolled around? I'm curious, what is the point of paying two extra guys that won't play?

    To spend the season developing them. With the new 'minor league' system the NBA set up it would seem worth it to do so.

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    We'll see. Beno had a nice seat last night.
    He was obviously being showcased.

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