Chumpettes: Do We Need To Get Rid Of This FDR Statue?

[spurraider21]

Even though the authoritarian SC pulled out of their ass at a later date, I know.

Talk of succession was commonplace between 1776 and 1861. It was understood that secession was a viable option.

this is derp's white flag

everybody knows... it's common knowledge... it's understood

[Spurtacular]

this is derp's white flag

everybody knows... it's common knowledge... it's understood

Look into the history if you don't believe me.

Lite with the desperate jump in.

[spurraider21]

Look into the history if you don't believe me.

Lite with the desperate jump in.

i'm familiar with the history. nothing to support what you're saying. at the time of ratification, new york specifically brought this up and demanded that language be included to reserve their right to secede/withdraw from the union. it was discussed at the convention and was rejected.

the articles of confederation called the union perpetual and the cons ution specifically states it is creating a "more perfect union"

[Spurtacular]

i'm familiar with the history. nothing to support what you're saying. at the time of ratification, new york specifically brought this up and demanded that language be included to reserve their right to secede/withdraw from the union. it was discussed at the convention and was rejected.

the articles of confederation called the union perpetual and the cons ution specifically states it is creating a "more perfect union"

Yea, and language saying states could not secede was rejected. Why? Because the Cons ution wouldn't have been ratified if so.

Phraseology like a "more perfect union" was certainly an effort to invoke a national pride that was second to state pride thereto then.
You're stretching more than Reck's ass on a Saturday night to say it is some sort of express binding language against seccession though.

And all of this is a sidebar to the fact that secession was a prevalent narrative throughout the Nineteenth century leading up to the Civil War.

[spurraider21]

Yea, and language saying states could not secede was rejected. Why? Because the Cons ution wouldn't have been ratified if so.

Phraseology like a "more perfect union" was certainly an effort to invoke a national pride that was second to state pride thereto then.
You're stretching more than Reck's ass on a Saturday night to say it is some sort of express binding language against seccession though.

And all of this is a sidebar to the fact that secession was a prevalent narrative throughout the Nineteenth century leading up to the Civil War.

certainly this "prevalent narrative throughout the Nineteenth century" can be do ented for us here

[Spurtacular]

certainly this "prevalent narrative throughout the Nineteenth century" can be do ented for us here

This book talks quite a bit about it if you're that interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Disease-Public-Mind-Understanding-Fought-ebook/dp/B00B3M3W7M/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2P1E8KW3YTFO3&dchild=1&keywords=di sease+of+the+public+mind&qid=1592282332&sprefix=di sease+of+the+publi%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-1

[ElNono]

This book talks quite a bit about it if you're that interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Disease-Public-Mind-Understanding-Fought-ebook/dp/B00B3M3W7M/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2P1E8KW3YTFO3&dchild=1&keywords=di sease+of+the+public+mind&qid=1592282332&sprefix=di sease+of+the+publi%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-1

Thanks for the book recommendation. Will put it on my reading list.

[Spurtacular]

Thanks for the book recommendation. Will put it on my reading list.

Why do you think this warrants sarcasm?

[ElNono]

Why do you think this warrants sarcasm?

Wasn't sarcasm at all... I like reading.

[Spurtacular]

Wasn't sarcasm at all... I like reading.

Okay. Well I give that book a thumbs up on the thumbs up / down scale.

It's not among the better historical accounts in my collection though.
But I've not read as much on the Civil War as other areas of history.
That particular one had a lot of stuff I haven't read elsewhere, such as
considerable depth into the other times the South came close to seceding.
And New England was talking about secession in their own right.
It overviews that some, too.

[ElNono]

Okay. Well I give that book a thumbs up on the thumbs up / down scale.

It's not among the better historical accounts in my collection though.
But I've not read as much on the Civil War as other areas of history.
That particular one had a lot of stuff I haven't read elsewhere, such as
considerable depth into the other times the South came close to seceding.
And New England was talking about secession in their own right.
It overviews that some, too.

Good stuff. Different times, for sure, but always lessons to learn from history.

[Blake]

Thanks for the book recommendation. Will put it on my reading list.

Why do you think this warrants sarcasm?

Wasn't sarcasm at all... I like reading.

derp so used to taking brutal hits that he doesn't know when someone is patting him on the head

[spurraider21]

This book talks quite a bit about it if you're that interested.

https://www.amazon.com/Disease-Public-Mind-Understanding-Fought-ebook/dp/B00B3M3W7M/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2P1E8KW3YTFO3&dchild=1&keywords=di sease+of+the+public+mind&qid=1592282332&sprefix=di sease+of+the+publi%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-1

so theres no way for you to do ent this prevalent narrative other than recommending a book?

[Spurtacular]

derp so used to taking brutal hits that he doesn't know when someone is patting him on the head

He'd done it before, board cuck. What changed this time, I dunno. Who cares. I just know you want a w really badly.

[Spurtacular]

so theres no way for you to do ent this prevalent narrative other than recommending a book?

Yea, I could research it on the internet. But that doesn't mean I want to take the time. I at least showed you if you want to know, one way.
Or did you just want a cheap w and still want a cheap w?

[spurraider21]

Yea, I could research it on the internet. But that doesn't mean I want to take the time. I at least showed you if you want to know, one way.
Or did you just want a cheap w and still want a cheap w?

i have no way of knowing that the book says what you claim it says, though, short of buying the book.

is there a synopsis or review/summary that will confirm that his book discusses the prevalent narrative throughout the 19th century that secession was a legal/legitimate maneuver?

its your claim and you are just throwing a book recommendation at me and essentially telling me to look it up

[Spurtacular]

i have no way of knowing that the book says what you claim it says, though, short of buying the book.

is there a synopsis or review/summary that will confirm that his book discusses the prevalent narrative throughout the 19th century that secession was a legal/legitimate maneuver?

its your claim and you are just throwing a book recommendation at me and essentially telling me to look it up

Good thing I'm not writing a college paper and don't need to include footnotes.

You should try to rise above your mentor's ploys, Lite.

I'm sure you could've confirmed this rather quickly on your own.

[spurraider21]

Good thing I'm not writing a college paper and don't need to include footnotes.

You should try to rise above your mentor's ploys, Lite.

I'm sure you could've confirmed this rather quickly on your own.

if it was really a widespread and prevalent narrative, yes, either you or i should have been able to confirm it quickly without needing me to look it up for you in a book that i dont own

[Spurtacular]

if it was really a widespread and prevalent narrative, yes, either you or i should have been able to confirm it quickly without needing me to look it up for you in a book that i dont own

The secession movements were quite public.

See, if this was about your intellectual curiosity and not a desperate pursuit for a tiny w, it might be another story.

[Blake]

The secession movements were quite public.

Obviously not.

[spurraider21]

The secession movements were quite public.

See, if this was about your intellectual curiosity and not a desperate pursuit for a tiny w, it might be another story.

quite public and yet the only way you've been able to "do ent" it is by referring to a single book published in 2013?

[Spurtacular]

Obviously not.

Even more public than your announcement that you're a cuckold.

Ankle Biter Blake

[Spurtacular]

quite public and yet the only way you've been able to "do ent" it is by referring to a single book published in 2013?

You get that tiny w yet?

[spurraider21]

You get that tiny w yet?

dont want a tiny w, i would rather continue the discussion. you giving me a link to purchase a book and saying "look it up" is ending the discussion

[Spurtacular]

dont want a tiny w, i would rather continue the discussion. you giving me a link to purchase a book and saying "look it up" is ending the discussion

It apparently wasn't the end of the discussion. You went spiraling.