Question - John Collins

[Thomas82]

Not impressed with the way he's scoring his points. 30 points is great if it wasn't against a defenseless team. But 30 points is what the casuals will see, like how mainstream media usually caters to viewers: show them highlights of the guy who scored the most on the losing team instead of the guy on the WINNING team who impacted the game in many other ways besides scoring.

Not worth the max to me.

Also, Lauri is definitely not getting the max by the way he's playing this year so far.

[CGD]

I just don’t see it. Good player, yes, but at that big price tag? If the Spurs are building their offense around their young wings, I’d rather go after a defensive minded big.

I know his stock is down and he has his own issue, but I’d rather target a Miles Turner.

[BillMc]

Sign LMA to an affordable 2 year deal and draft a big. Don't overpay for Collins.

[CGD]

I think we should be talking about the other Collins as a target— Zach Collins.

I’m know he’s been injured so hard to gauge is price, but notable that he didn’t get extended.

[R. DeMurre]

I like Collins but would much rather spend 10-15m on Holmes. Not a PF (and would make the Jakob signing look dubious) but dude is a perfect C for us. Athletic, high-energy, smart defender. Has a really lethal push shot free-throw line in. He’s playing great for the Kings and has pushed Whiteside completely out of the rotation (albeit whiteside sucks). His numbers look fantastic and definitely passes the eye-test watching him play.

I've been following Holmes closely this year, and I think he's very underrated. His efficiency numbers have increased steadily his entire career, and now he's entering his prime at age 27. I'd much rather have Holmes than Collins, especially at half the price.

[RC_Drunkford]

Holmes can't shoot 3s

[R. DeMurre]

Richaun Holmes last night: 16 pts, 10 rebounds, 3 assists, 6 blocks, 1 steal. And made a three. Here's why I think Holmes's improvement isn't a fluke-- his FG%s in his 6 seasons have been: 51.4, 55.8, 56, 60.8, 64.8, 67.5. Steady improvement his entire career. Here are his FT%s for those years: 68.9, 68.9, 66.1, 73.1, 78.8, 82.6. Again, consistent improvement. The only season he averaged over 1 3ptFGA per game, he shot 35%, so I think, with his improved shooting, he could become a threat from there. The guy plays very good switchable defense and is all over the floor on that end, getting steals & blocks. But his Usage rate is lower than Collins, or a guy like Bam Adebayo. Signing Holmes next year as a FA would help the starters, and sent Poeltl to the bench, where he's most effective.