Bruce Bowen is too old. Might as well trade him for a second round pick.The same way people jump on you when you say things like Bruce Bowen sucks.
We all know you blow methane out your pipes most of the time.
Bruce Bowen was lit up the other night for 40+ points. I definitely don't want to hear him mentioned as a Defensive Player of the Year.
Because of him, I am sitting here listening to ESPN talk about the best team in the NBA.
The Pistons.
Solid D is a re .
Is pseudofan going to bake you some pumpkin pie next week?
yeah, Pops shld consider trading him to the Mavs so they can win that ringBruce Bowen is too old. Might as well trade him for a second round pick..
All this SPURS RULE!!! talk, but when they Play the Mavericks they choke by 32 points, why is that?
I think the mavs have the spurs number. Parker can't guard Harris for some reason and Duncan can't guard Dirk. That is probably the toughest player in the league for Duncan to guard because Dirk is like a guard.
Worb!
Dirk can't guard Duncan. Dirk can't guard anyone in the NBA.
There is a reason why Dallas doesn't get anywhere, year after year.
Dallas is a tough team to play, because of Dirk's outside shooting. When Dirk is off or pressured, Dallas will lose against anyone, spurs or no spurs.
When the time counts, the Spurs will destroy the Mavericks.
Parker, Ginobili and Duncan can score at will on the Mavs.
no disrespect to any mavs or suns fan. but the only way the Mavs or the Suns would acquire a championship would be if the larry o'brien were to become an airborne virus.
Have you seen Duncan dominate Dirk? That is just a reputation Dirk has gotten a few years ago. He is tall and has improved his lateral movement to still give Duncan problems. Duncan tried to take advantage of Dirk but it didn't happen.
Duncan is the best player in the league. I would say that if Duncan was aggressive, he would drop 50 on Dirk.
How bout that? Dirk is only better than Duncan in a Mavs fan wet dream.
I believe it is guards that give Dirk more trouble. Dirk can usually hang in there with power forwards. I say the matchup favors Dirk more times than not. San Antonio needs a long athletic small forward to shut Dirk down.
I agree somewhat, but your outside shooting 7 footer vaginal wuss of a center has gotten you nowhere and typical mav fans like yourself can't wake up to face reality and see the ing light.
Dirk Nowitski will take you nowhere shooting 3s.
Also, when the physicality of the play begins, Dirk is usually grabbing the ice pack.
Enjoy your success during the preseason and then gtfo of the way when the real season starts.
Dirk doesn't shoot many 3's anymore. When he is off he usually is taking it to the basket or shooting fade aways from mid range. With Nash it was a different story.
TIM DUNCANhe would drop 50 on Dirk
CAREER HIGH
Points 53 vs. Dallas 12/26/01
the day Tim Duncan gave Mavs fans an early Christmas present-shot the game-winning basket in the last seconds of the game, finishing w/ 53 pts
So what are you basing this success on? Dirk's past? Dirk today?
Dude is a good player. But he is not going to get you out of the second round. Check your history.
You did some long research there. Lafrentz was probably guarding him and that is a big time mismatch. Dampier would at least make Duncan go to perimeter.
Dirk is a much better player now than the past. Dirk has gotten strong enough to hold his ground on Duncan. Before he was slower and weaker so basing the past on now is off. Dampier and Diop are good post defenders as well so Duncan should not go off on Dallas. The key is to throw 7 footers against Duncan so Duncan can't go over them in the post.
Dampier
Diop, we'll see how he develops.
Dirk is the same ol shoot first ask second, non playing defense white boy from europe.
What else is new?
laugh all you want but Dampier does well against people who like to post up. Diop might even better with more experience. He is a athletic version of Dampier. Your hate for Dirk is very obvious. Dallas is much worse on defense when Van Horn comes in for Dirk. Just look at that one game against Philly and other times Dirk didn't play.Dampier
Diop, we'll see how he develops.
Dirk is the same ol shoot first ask second, non playing defense white boy from europe.
What else is new?
I am happy for you mavfan. I am so glad that Dallas is a great team in November.
It gives you guys some hope.
Good Luck.
Should be a great series. Glad that Nash isn't guarding Parker anymore. Nash is a terrible defender.
pretty obvious
"Finley is a waste".
"Nash, the 2005 MVP, a terrible defender"
...this guy hates Ex-Mav players from teams who beat them in the playoffs
All I remember is seeing Parker school Nash in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure Terry and Harris could do a better job than what Nash did. Finley is over the hill now. His best years was in 2002 and before. Josh Howard, Marquis Daniels, Terry, and Harris makeup for the lost of Nash and Finley.pretty obvious
"Finley is a waste".
"Nash, the 2005 MVP, a terrible defender"
...this guy hates Ex-Mav players from teams who beat them in the playoffs
Remind me again why the Suns are so great. Frankly, I don't see it.
Pistons beat us in game 4 by more than 30. But guess what, that was only one game.
On the road, after a relatively easy win, if a team has their outside permiter shot falling, a team like the Mavs or the Wizards can beat us by a lot.
However, the percentages favor a team that can score easier through a low post player. Normally, in a seven game series, a team dependent upon perimeter jumpshots struggles to score more than a team which can score on the block.
Your putting way too much into November.
We were not a good road team during the regular season last year (21-20). Mediocre. On the other hand, we won every single game in the playoffs at Phoenix.
We're not where we want to be right now. However, we have five months or so to get there. As our team gets to know each other better and as our team returns to full strength (Manu esp, Finley and Barry less so), we will play better. We have the offensive weapons and we are one of the top two or three teams in the league in defense every year and have been for most of the tenure of Tim Duncan. Two first team all NBA defense members, consistently allow fewest points, one of the top teams in shot blocks, one of the best teams in terms of deflections, one of the best teams in terms of opp 3 pt shooting %, one of the best teams in terms of opp field goal %. We really only lost one major contributor and that was Devin Brown. Otherwise, we added on pieces (Oberto, Finley and Van Exel). Pop is still here. The Big Fundamental is still here. Bowen is still here. Therefore, there is no reason to think that as the season wears on, our defense will not be strong like it normally is.
With a strong defense and with an improved offense, we have a good chance of defending our le. No guarantees, but a good chance.
When Amare gets back, Suns will be compe ive. If he were here, I don't doubt that you all would make the playoffs. Neither is there any reason to doubt that we will.
Our record is 6-2. 2 losses, whether by 1 or by 30 still are only 2 losses.
The odds are pretty good that we will beat Dallas in San Antonio. We lost only a couple of games last year at home during the regular season and fared well at home through out the playoffs (9-3 ie 75%)
People know that Tim is either the best (a consensus opinion) or one of the best (an admission by even people who hate the Spurs except when they go on the river parade like that hypocrite and liar, the little rat) players in the league. First team NBA every year for his first eight and doesn't look like that's going to change any time soon, Parker has a great chance at making the all star team this year and Manu will probably return, his scoring rising as time goes on and he is healthier (don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the doubts there). We have won 3 finals. Tim has won the mvp of the league twice in the regular season and 3 times in the finals. We still have the highest winning percentage of any team in the four major professional sports venues in the Tim Duncan era. These are all facts, objective criteria which belie any claim that doubt should be cast on the return of the Spurs to the Postseason. When is the last time that we did not make the playoffs? Prior to the arrival of Tim Duncan.
All of these facts make it painfully obvious that anybody who says that they are unsure of whether the Spurs will return to the playoffs is either very stupid, completely ignorant of basketball or saying something that they know is untrue.
In fact, many people believe that the East is stronger than the West. Eight teams will beat San Antonio? Why should I believe this? It is claimed that our performance this season so far dictates this belief. However, we are now winning 60 % of our road games which is better than the 50 % which we won the previous year when we won our current le.
I don't think much of our centers, but I don't think much of Dampier. However, we all know that Tim is our post player. You all can go to Amare because his athleticism makes up for his lack of back to the basket moves. He has also improved his jumper. He is an all world, amazing athlete. Nash-Amare pick n roll is about as difficult a play to defend as there is in the NBA.
So, at least Phoenix has some points in the paint and in some sense a post player. Dallas does not have this.
Now, I am expected to believe that somehow based upon approximately 10 % of this season's games that Dallas will emerge as the best of the pack in the West? That's not extrapolation, that's extraterrestrial type of thinking. Far, far away in a distant galaxy where logic and truth and facts do not apply as they do here on Earth among us mortals. Dallas does not even have the best record now. I can't remember the last time that Dallas made it to the Western Conference Finals. So far, they won 1 game at home against us after we beat a team badly. We're a bad road team in the regular season and we faced a team who that particular night shot well from the outside.
This Dallas team has a history and it is not a good history. It is that of a team that makes it to the playoffs, wins the first round and loses the second round. A team that does not play defense the way that Detroit does or the way that we do. This is a team that is utterly dependent upon hitting outside perimeter jumpshots (which are normally going to be contested by the Spurs as their consistent history has demonstrated). One does not override eight years of history by a single night. In science, we call that an anomaly.
Anomalies happen. Functions may do all sorts of weird stuff before they finally approach a limit (a horizontal asymptote). In many of these functions as x approaches xnot, we see f(x) approach a limit L. And in these functions as x approaches x not it is true that for every Epsilon greater than zero, there exists a delta greater than zero such that the absolute value of x-xnot being less than delta does imply that the absolute value of f(x)- f (xnot) is less than Epsilon. As we get closer to June, you will see the Spurs converging upon that high level of play which they have played at for the last eight years, perhaps even that level of play which has been achieved when they won their 3 championships.
As I said before, anomalies happen, people actually do pick up a royal flush dealt to them (as improbable as that is for any one person), broken clocks are right twice every 24 hours. However, do not expect (and certainly do not waste our time with ridiculous, idiotic assertions) that the Spurs won't make the playoffs or should not be the favorite, at least in the West until you can produce better evidence gathered over a longer period of time.
Einstein stated that it is a mark of insanity to do the same exact thing and expect different results than obtained the first time. Dallas has not changed. San Antonio has not changed. Still no d in Dallas and no post play. San Antonio still has one of the best defensive teams in the league, still has TD, Parker, Ginobili, and a very good and improved offense. Anomalies in November do not overturn eight years of consistent results, especially when the factors which produced the results have not themselves changed.
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