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No, I just don't agree with you.
you're an attorney? a judge?
No, I just don't agree with you.
you're an attorney as well? No, you two are cops. No wonder you're both foaming at the mouths at the possibility of cir venting the probable cause requirement for arrests
I don't think that they're attorneys or judges, but it's pretty obvious what you're NOT.
Are you The Writer, by chance?
No I'm thinking this as a consequence of a crime already committed.
Oh, I see. You commit a crime once so you're fair game for the cops to stop you whenever they please.
You should move to Cuba.
I've had a very colorful, close up and personal education in matters such as these via the perpetual -ups of my ex-husband, thanks. I'm very much aware of what the laws and rights are for people on probation, parole and those otherwise being closely monitored.
I didn't *get it* from google.
I see. You knew somebody who has been on parole, so now you're an expert on probable cause and substantive due process.
Do you feel the same way about people on parole or probation being monitored? Because it'd be the same ing thing.
No, I know that they are basically at the mercy of the state until they've completed their time...whether it's probation, parole or whatever. They aren't due Due Process for until that time is up.
Do you feel the same way about people on parole or probation being monitored? Because it'd be the same ing thing.
You ever wonder if the cops doing this aren't overstepping the bounds of what's legal for them to do? Oh no, cops never cut corners.
You ever wonder if that's fair?
I don't believe I've ever said that they haven't or wouldn't. I just don't look at it any differently than what a *criminal* on probation for any other crime would be subject to.
the only "real" issue I have with the proposed law is the language about cops stopping without PC. I don't know about you, but I think cops have enough power as it is.
Edit: and I aplogize for calling your boyfriend a nazi and for telling you to eat a lemon
Yes and no....but to be totally fair you'd probably have to do away with probation or parole all together. Which would mean automatic jail time for everyone that breaks the law...with set sentences across the board for whatever crime.
If you put someone on probation in lieu of prison, how are they receiving any punishment at all other than the fines that go with it if they aren't held accountable for that time? What would be the point? Same thing of letting people out of jail early on parole....even though they will be required to give up a few rights for a period of time, I think if you ask any of them it would beat the out of being locked up.
I better qualify my answer first with, "I'm not an attorney". I don't think it's unfair to subject people convicted of DUI to random stops. Maybe this can be set for a certain period of time or something but that is in the details. I'm not advocating police just pulling anyone over at random, but due to the cir stances of the crime, the plate theory should at least be looked at thoroughly.
That exist right now. Get picked-up for DWI and see how much it cost to get the car off the lot.
Last edited by xrayzebra; 11-17-2005 at 04:19 PM.
Looks like the pink plates are catchy...
Bills would identify sex offenders by auto plates
Pink tags on cars for five years after prison release
By Shaheen Samavati
Dayton Daily News
Dayton Daily NewsCOLUMBUS | Two state lawmakers are pushing legislation that would require Ohio's most serious sex offenders to have pink identifying license plates for at least five years after their release from prison.
"A distinctive license plate would warn parents and children of the potential threat posed by sexual offenders," said Sen. Kevin Coughlin, R-Cuyahoga Falls.
Legislation by Rep. Michael DeBose, D-Cleveland, to require the license plates has stalled in a House committee. On Wednesday, Coughlin introduced an identical, companion bill in the Senate, which could give the issue a second chance. DeBose said pink was chosen because it stands out and is not easily camouflaged, though color isn't important.
The legislation would make it mandatory for courts to order the most serious sexual offenders, such as habitual child molesters, to use the license plates for a minimum of five years after their release from prison.
If the plates for pedophiles and drunks are both pink. How will people be able tell if the car belongs to a priest or a Bush?
Yeah...ok.
MADD started in Michigan. MADD is a multi-million (maybe billion now) special interest organization dedicated to making drunk driving a death-penalty eligible crime (For the children!).
You want to reduce drunk-driving? Do you reeeeeeally want to?
Make MADD, with all their money spent on greedy politicians, make them spend all that money on a US taxi system.
Think about that. If MADD reeeeeeally wanted to prevent drunk-driving, they would provide an alternative to get home. But that isnt what they are about.
They dont want to provide the bar-going people of this country a safe way to get home, they want to criminalize them and demonize them. They want revenge for all the tragedies caused by the evil-doers who drink and drive.
Its a scam. And whichever talking head from Washington proposed this dip idea can be counted as one of the many who have been paid by MADD to "raise awareness" or what the ever it is those ninny, house wifes do.
MADD sux. Give people a cheap means to get home from the bar/party/etc. If the MADD Taxi was in place in your state, then raise the punishment based on the sound logic that the State and all its residents provided you the means to get home cheaply and safely. You chose not to accept this helping hand and therefore shall suffer greater consequences.
Simple. Cheap too. But, you see, thats too easy. This isnt about prevention, it about punishment and revenge. Just goes to show that if youre righteousness enough and mad enough, you can bend the wills of the weak to your calling if youre committed. MADD. They are the most coniving losers ever to come out of Michigan.
spend all that money on a US taxi system.
I'd support it .... if included in the fare they came and got you the next morning to go pick up your car.
The bumper stickers on the Bush car would be upside down.
So the cartoon you posted is pro-plate?
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